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<blockquote data-quote="Regina" data-source="post: 1290845" data-attributes="member: 12872"><p>Who said I stopped complaining about the PATRIOT act? It still violates rights clearly set in the Constitution and will continue to until it is thrown out. </p><p></p><p>Of course I'd pigeon hole myself, I'm the only with the right do so since I make those decisions ... </p><p></p><p>As with most narrative of American people and politics we can continue with the "socialist, elitist, far left, far right, facist, communist, right wing, racist, liberal, sexist, tyrant," and not debate the actual issues at hand figuring out a solution. I'm against that option, but then again I've never treated politics like a sporting event that I have to choose a team to root for and stick to their agenda no matter how much it violates the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. As my previous post, where I spoke against my own party, indicates. </p><p></p><p>I would love to discuss why the PATRIOT act and many government agencies are engaging in unconstitutional behavior that is endangering all Americans if that's what you'd like to discuss. But it will be a waste of time if we engage in that debate and replies are, "liberal!/far left!" just the same as it would be a waste of time to discuss why Hate Crime legislation is against the 1st amendment if the rebuttal is simply, "racist!/far right!" When <strong>anyone</strong> invokes censorship by peer pressure making the debate about who the enemy is rather than the facts of the actual debate, the outcome will always be that nothing gets solved because no one is addressing the actual issue. </p><p></p><p>And sorry folks, the "career politicians" aren't responsible for this one, we're supplying them the narrative on which to run on. Rather than addressing the actual issues they're doing our bidding by being the candidate to BLOCK the other party rather than being a candidate that's actually read the Constitution and Bill of Rights and will adhere to them, despite public outcry.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Regina, post: 1290845, member: 12872"] Who said I stopped complaining about the PATRIOT act? It still violates rights clearly set in the Constitution and will continue to until it is thrown out. Of course I'd pigeon hole myself, I'm the only with the right do so since I make those decisions ... As with most narrative of American people and politics we can continue with the "socialist, elitist, far left, far right, facist, communist, right wing, racist, liberal, sexist, tyrant," and not debate the actual issues at hand figuring out a solution. I'm against that option, but then again I've never treated politics like a sporting event that I have to choose a team to root for and stick to their agenda no matter how much it violates the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. As my previous post, where I spoke against my own party, indicates. I would love to discuss why the PATRIOT act and many government agencies are engaging in unconstitutional behavior that is endangering all Americans if that's what you'd like to discuss. But it will be a waste of time if we engage in that debate and replies are, "liberal!/far left!" just the same as it would be a waste of time to discuss why Hate Crime legislation is against the 1st amendment if the rebuttal is simply, "racist!/far right!" When [B]anyone[/B] invokes censorship by peer pressure making the debate about who the enemy is rather than the facts of the actual debate, the outcome will always be that nothing gets solved because no one is addressing the actual issue. And sorry folks, the "career politicians" aren't responsible for this one, we're supplying them the narrative on which to run on. Rather than addressing the actual issues they're doing our bidding by being the candidate to BLOCK the other party rather than being a candidate that's actually read the Constitution and Bill of Rights and will adhere to them, despite public outcry. [/QUOTE]
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