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<blockquote data-quote="Tanis143" data-source="post: 3713458" data-attributes="member: 43724"><p>And you completely missed where I said the health care industry as a whole should be non-profit. Yes, I talked about hospitals being non-profit. And I admit, I did not realize so many were considered non-profit, but even those hospitals use for-profit entities that are separate yet use the hospital as a place of business. But, that doesn't count for all the other parts of the medical industry that are for-profit and free to charge whatever they want, most notably the pharmaceutical industry. </p><p></p><p>Not to mention you completely ignored my segment that trying to find cheaper insurance is not the answer as someone will still end up footing the bill. It doesn't matter if you are talking about socialized health care (single payer or universal health care) or multiple payer system that we have now, everyone ends up paying to provide health care to all. And the main driver behind the high cost of insurance is the cost of health care. All of it. The health care industry has 0 competition. They quite literally have a captive subscriber base that has no choice but to pay their prices, in some cases its either not pay their other bills to afford medication or die and at best is be in debt for the rest of their lives over a service they had no choice but accepting. So far the only thing I've heard is "better yourself and get a better job with better benefits" and "lets allow cheaper plans that don't pay squat and surprise you with high bills afterwards". No one, and I mean no one, so far has supported finding ways to lower the costs of the health care itself. I guess as long as some company gets to make a large profit you're ok with it. As much as I favor capitalism over other forms of economic policy I can't see that as anything but strong arming people to paying huge sums of money for their health.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tanis143, post: 3713458, member: 43724"] And you completely missed where I said the health care industry as a whole should be non-profit. Yes, I talked about hospitals being non-profit. And I admit, I did not realize so many were considered non-profit, but even those hospitals use for-profit entities that are separate yet use the hospital as a place of business. But, that doesn't count for all the other parts of the medical industry that are for-profit and free to charge whatever they want, most notably the pharmaceutical industry. Not to mention you completely ignored my segment that trying to find cheaper insurance is not the answer as someone will still end up footing the bill. It doesn't matter if you are talking about socialized health care (single payer or universal health care) or multiple payer system that we have now, everyone ends up paying to provide health care to all. And the main driver behind the high cost of insurance is the cost of health care. All of it. The health care industry has 0 competition. They quite literally have a captive subscriber base that has no choice but to pay their prices, in some cases its either not pay their other bills to afford medication or die and at best is be in debt for the rest of their lives over a service they had no choice but accepting. So far the only thing I've heard is "better yourself and get a better job with better benefits" and "lets allow cheaper plans that don't pay squat and surprise you with high bills afterwards". No one, and I mean no one, so far has supported finding ways to lower the costs of the health care itself. I guess as long as some company gets to make a large profit you're ok with it. As much as I favor capitalism over other forms of economic policy I can't see that as anything but strong arming people to paying huge sums of money for their health. [/QUOTE]
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