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<blockquote data-quote="diggler1833" data-source="post: 4063865" data-attributes="member: 48072"><p>I just kind of glanced at a few responses as this thread got busy in a hurry.</p><p></p><p>My Home Defense and Home Offense (basically a stored rifle with a couple loaded mags for whatever) are Daniel Defense DDM4V7s. 5-10 years ago, you could get one for around $1300 if you shopped enough. Seems like they have never come back down much since 2020. My back door rifle is an FN DMR II. I consider those to be a good balance between reliability and cost.</p><p></p><p>There are advantages in some regard to factory rifles that use better (more expensive too) parts, and test their parts to reduce the chance of breakage. There are differences between quality of metals used and in heat treatment of basic rifles and rifles that frequently twice as much (think 6061 vs 7076 aluminum, carpenter 158 bolt steel vs 9310 etc...). Hammer forged or cut rifled barrels vs button rifled, 416R vs. 4130, M4 furniture vs. Gucci stuff. The list goes on and on.</p><p></p><p>True, if you put 100 rounds downrange per year, the chances of breaking anything are greatly reduced. This is where the owner has to determine their needs/wants and usage, and try to match that up with budget.</p><p></p><p>my hog guns are assembled by me with the parts that I specifically want. Usually that is because I want a different cartridge than .223/5.56. </p><p></p><p>I have had zero issues with any small frame I've ever put together, but there is more standardization of parts in small frame guns. The large frame ("AR-10") stuff is different, and you can find yourself with incompatible parts if you don't do your research ahead of time.</p><p></p><p>Adjustable gas blocks, buffers and buffer springs are all used to adjust the ejection and feeding. Usually you can make most guns run well with enough tinkering of those parts (assuming that there aren't problems elsewhere).</p><p></p><p>A good answer here would take volumes, so I've obviously missed a lot in my brevity. Hope it helps some, and I saw some good info posted already too.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="diggler1833, post: 4063865, member: 48072"] I just kind of glanced at a few responses as this thread got busy in a hurry. My Home Defense and Home Offense (basically a stored rifle with a couple loaded mags for whatever) are Daniel Defense DDM4V7s. 5-10 years ago, you could get one for around $1300 if you shopped enough. Seems like they have never come back down much since 2020. My back door rifle is an FN DMR II. I consider those to be a good balance between reliability and cost. There are advantages in some regard to factory rifles that use better (more expensive too) parts, and test their parts to reduce the chance of breakage. There are differences between quality of metals used and in heat treatment of basic rifles and rifles that frequently twice as much (think 6061 vs 7076 aluminum, carpenter 158 bolt steel vs 9310 etc...). Hammer forged or cut rifled barrels vs button rifled, 416R vs. 4130, M4 furniture vs. Gucci stuff. The list goes on and on. True, if you put 100 rounds downrange per year, the chances of breaking anything are greatly reduced. This is where the owner has to determine their needs/wants and usage, and try to match that up with budget. my hog guns are assembled by me with the parts that I specifically want. Usually that is because I want a different cartridge than .223/5.56. I have had zero issues with any small frame I've ever put together, but there is more standardization of parts in small frame guns. The large frame ("AR-10") stuff is different, and you can find yourself with incompatible parts if you don't do your research ahead of time. Adjustable gas blocks, buffers and buffer springs are all used to adjust the ejection and feeding. Usually you can make most guns run well with enough tinkering of those parts (assuming that there aren't problems elsewhere). A good answer here would take volumes, so I've obviously missed a lot in my brevity. Hope it helps some, and I saw some good info posted already too. [/QUOTE]
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