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Message: <blockquote data-quote="JEVapa" data-source="post: 4068440" data-attributes="member: 41176">"High end" is relative.   Just because it costs a lot, doesn't mean it's high end, it just means it costs a lot.  High-ish end doesn't mean spendy either.  However, real high-end guns will outshoot most junk and cheap out there including a bunch of the "high end" posited here.  Real high-end guns do tend to cost more, it is what it is, and have always been and always will be worth the money.   Most people will never see the difference because they don't work it to the point that "high-end" matters.  High-end gets poopooed and cheap is good enough, because most people will never go beyond what cheap provides.  A few rounds at the range occasionally and staged photos of never-ending improvements on OSA.WRT forgings, just because the forgings are all relatively the same, doesn't mean the guns are the same.  It's the machinists and final finishing that makes a good receiver.  You can talk sh*t all day on Poverty Pony, but they make really good uppers and lowers - they've figured it out...good parts kits and gas blocks too, but that's about it IMO.Same with PSA...took them a long time but they make really good stuff now.  There was a point in time not too long ago that PSA was associated with a garbage truck, so...People dump on DPMS, but they started as an OEM parts supplier to the USG...their sh*t never breaks unless you're making it better or something.Like [USER=47781]@ClintC[/USER] said, if you're gonna add stuff and tinker and spend money making it better all the time, then you should go ahead and build one with "high-end" parts - good receivers, BCG, barrel, etc and take your time to build the frankengun of your dreams.If you're not gonna make it better all the time, then buy a "high-end" gun based on your budget and what you save up for.Or a Hybrid - say a LaRue URG on a PSA or Colt lower or something like that.  Hybrid ghetto guns are always really good especially when you get a factory URG.  I have several of these and they all run like raped apes. Or build a name brand out of their parts...you can do this with a lot of companies - WC, LaRue, LMT, etc.Example: During holiday sales, you can build a kickass WC for under $1000 that is as good or better than their guns they sell.My #Hana thing I look for with a "high-end" gun company is that it has or has had USG contracts.   If they have or have had USG contracts for weapons, then you can be guaranteed that it'll run for at least 10000 rounds before it needs any new parts and will most likely run for many more if rebuilt right.If they don't have any USG contracts, then I look for other mitigating factors like USG procurement competitions and how they fared, shooting competitors, Federal and LEO, personal experience, etc.</blockquote>

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