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<blockquote data-quote="ricco" data-source="post: 3721133" data-attributes="member: 46005">Just my 2 cents.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; First if I see a person walk into a place of business carrying a shotgun I&#039;m leaving, gone, like smoke in a strong wind. As one intructor told me, leaving solves a multitude of problems. If I can&#039;t leave, if it is possible I will move out of bad guy&#039;s direct line of sight. If I can&#039;t do that, well, that just one of life&#039;s curve balls.So just my thoughts on the bolded statement.If the person holding the shotgun hasn&#039;t pointed it at anyone in threatening manner and someone makes a decision to draw and fire based on what might happen we get into &quot;furtive movement&quot;. Furtive Movement is a defense commonly used by LEO&#039;s with some success. I wouldn&#039;t count on the non LEO having much success with that defense as it based on training and more important, experience. The non LEO is unlikely to have the real world experience to base a decision on FM and will be ripped apart by a prosecutor should that non LEO try to use it as a legal defense.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ricco, post: 3721133, member: 46005"] Just my 2 cents. First if I see a person walk into a place of business carrying a shotgun I'm leaving, gone, like smoke in a strong wind. As one intructor told me, leaving solves a multitude of problems. If I can't leave, if it is possible I will move out of bad guy's direct line of sight. If I can't do that, well, that just one of life's curve balls. So just my thoughts on the bolded statement. If the person holding the shotgun hasn't pointed it at anyone in threatening manner and someone makes a decision to draw and fire [I]based on what might happen[/I] we get into "furtive movement". Furtive Movement is a defense commonly used by LEO's with some success. I wouldn't count on the non LEO having much success with that defense as it based on training and more important, experience. The non LEO is unlikely to have the real world experience to base a decision on FM and will be ripped apart by a prosecutor should that non LEO try to use it as a legal defense. [/QUOTE]

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