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Message: <blockquote data-quote="sh00ter" data-source="post: 2050745" data-attributes="member: 24531">There were farmers who owned cannons back during/after the revolutionary war..."to keep and bear arms" means the technology of the day. Even though i think the 2nd amendment means anything (except nukes), I am a pragmatist and understand that F16's and tanks might be a bit much in private hands...full-auto and grenades, etc I think you CAN get with tax stamps and the proper vetting process as a collector or Class-3 dealer?But I think there should be county citizen armories (that do contain most military weaponry) independent of the gov't that have properly trained and vetted "citizen captains" sworn to uphold the Constitution, that have the ability to organize in the event of a national emergency where the military was either under command of a tyrant, or defeated by a foreign power. The "militia" the Constitution refers to is certainly not a gov't militia right??? Basically you'd have a volunteer local militia that was similar to volunteer firefighters...regional, trained and vetted...and the weapons secured properly. Then, the current laws could stay in effect with no changes so that most semi-auto small arms (including AR's. etc) are permitted to private citizens and autos and other more advanced weapons are only permitted to those properly vetted beyond just a 4473 and background check. The problem is that MANY people who own guns are not responsible enough to exercise this right and ruin it for all of us...so I can understand in a country of 315 million people that the "well-regulated" part must come into play and people can't own automatics, RPG's, etc on a simple 4473 because of how easy this stuff could fall into the wrong hands...BUT, 85% of all MODERN weapons technology is banned or restricted to the avg Joe...So I think the last 15% (basic semi-auto small arms) need not be banned...and if you have these citizen armories, in fact our rights are broadened in the sense that although we could not have machine guns and claymores and tanks at home, we would still have a fighting chance in the even of a national emergency but ONLY if the military could not take care of us.You are spread out too much...if I still had guns, I'd only stock NATO calibers and only a few varieties.Yes, me too...with the new laws inevitably coming down, pellet guns and black powder are all I need anyway.</blockquote>

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