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<blockquote data-quote="okcBob" data-source="post: 4340293" data-attributes="member: 45783"><p>Not true. First of all it’s not a pill. Pain control regimen can be a combination of oral meds and a fentanyl patch or a continuous infusion of opioids, etc. There is no specific dosage that will dictate what the doc can prescribe as different patients require different drugs/dosage to reach the therapeutic effect. A 240lb guy generally needs more pain meds than a 90lb woman would need. So if that “guideline” is 10mg morphine, that dose might kill the tiny woman, but not be enough for the large man. So, any specific dosage number limit is illogical.</p><p></p><p>I think the argument here is about euthanasia.</p><p></p><p>I’m guessing your point is docs can’t prescribe enough pain meds to overdose a hospice patient & cause death, but we put animals out of their suffering that way. And sometimes euthanasia for hospice patients is the only way to prevent needless suffering. But that’s illegal, in OK anyway.</p><p></p><p>My point is that you can achieve adequate pain control on hospice without overdosing & causing death with the current meds & best practices that are available today. So, society is not preventing docs from relieving pain by some unknown guideline. The tools are there, but the doc has to know how to use them. Apparently. some docs dont & people suffer needlessly. But that’s on the doc, not society</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="okcBob, post: 4340293, member: 45783"] Not true. First of all it’s not a pill. Pain control regimen can be a combination of oral meds and a fentanyl patch or a continuous infusion of opioids, etc. There is no specific dosage that will dictate what the doc can prescribe as different patients require different drugs/dosage to reach the therapeutic effect. A 240lb guy generally needs more pain meds than a 90lb woman would need. So if that “guideline” is 10mg morphine, that dose might kill the tiny woman, but not be enough for the large man. So, any specific dosage number limit is illogical. I think the argument here is about euthanasia. I’m guessing your point is docs can’t prescribe enough pain meds to overdose a hospice patient & cause death, but we put animals out of their suffering that way. And sometimes euthanasia for hospice patients is the only way to prevent needless suffering. But that’s illegal, in OK anyway. My point is that you can achieve adequate pain control on hospice without overdosing & causing death with the current meds & best practices that are available today. So, society is not preventing docs from relieving pain by some unknown guideline. The tools are there, but the doc has to know how to use them. Apparently. some docs dont & people suffer needlessly. But that’s on the doc, not society [/QUOTE]
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