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<blockquote data-quote="JR777" data-source="post: 3619682" data-attributes="member: 45725"><p>Their freedom their choice I guess. But I think the potential of mistaking the situation for something it's not is high enough that, legal considerations aside, it would just be immoral to kill someone for that, based on what a bystander would have known.</p><p></p><p>But even if you made a correct analysis, which would just be dumb luck because there wasn't enough information to go on, and shot him for attempted carjacking, it's still not a good shoot. Not enough means, motive, and opportunity. I.e. no weapon, his objective is to get the car keys not kill her, and with you having a gun he didn't really have an opportunity. By that I mean there's no real immediate danger to life or limb if you wait and analyze the situation, attempt non lethal means, etc. It's not like he could strangle her with his bare hands before you could draw and ventilate him.</p><p></p><p>And all that's not even mentioning the danger of trying to shoot him when he's on top of the victim and they're both rapidly moving, rolling around, going to ground and jumping back up. Even a skilled shooter would be risking shooting the victim. For the average person who carries, who shoots maybe 50 rounds a year, I would give it 80% he misses both of them, and the other 20% I would split between the dude and his victim.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JR777, post: 3619682, member: 45725"] Their freedom their choice I guess. But I think the potential of mistaking the situation for something it's not is high enough that, legal considerations aside, it would just be immoral to kill someone for that, based on what a bystander would have known. But even if you made a correct analysis, which would just be dumb luck because there wasn't enough information to go on, and shot him for attempted carjacking, it's still not a good shoot. Not enough means, motive, and opportunity. I.e. no weapon, his objective is to get the car keys not kill her, and with you having a gun he didn't really have an opportunity. By that I mean there's no real immediate danger to life or limb if you wait and analyze the situation, attempt non lethal means, etc. It's not like he could strangle her with his bare hands before you could draw and ventilate him. And all that's not even mentioning the danger of trying to shoot him when he's on top of the victim and they're both rapidly moving, rolling around, going to ground and jumping back up. Even a skilled shooter would be risking shooting the victim. For the average person who carries, who shoots maybe 50 rounds a year, I would give it 80% he misses both of them, and the other 20% I would split between the dude and his victim. [/QUOTE]
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