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How to Understand Georgia's 'Guns Everywhere' Law: Four Blunt Points
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<blockquote data-quote="nofearfactor" data-source="post: 2465064" data-attributes="member: 1535"><p>Alcohol and firearms are not a good mix at all, and guns in bars on patrons is definitely no good. </p><p></p><p>As a bar/music venue co-owner for the last 15 years in Iowa and California I do carry in any of our clubs but only when I am there doing business which is usually during the day when the place is closed. If I come by with it on me during business hours (always via the back entrance) its just in and back out quickly stopping by to pick up cash to take to the bank if the place is packed, but never when Im there playing music or there as just a patron listening to a friends band and might be drinking a beer or three. </p><p></p><p>I know for a fact that people are carrying in our establishments- whether theyre legal to or not (meaning Im pretty sure we get more felons carrying than CC holders, hard rock types of bars tend to attract a pretty weird crowd). If our staff suspects a person is carrying something they are pulled aside and pat down, in or out of the place. Our door guys (several of which are and have been off duty law enforcement) do not pat down people on a regular basis during the week during slower business but on Friday and Saturday nights when we have multi band bills and we are packed they will pick out certain people in the crowd here and there that look a little suspicious to check out a lil further. If we checked everyone out though it would take hours to get them in there. Weekends we do all ages shows, usually from 7-10, so the kiddies can come in and rock out too, and then after 10 its 21 and up only with the same bands but the bar is open. The 2nd period is usually our wildest crowd because theyre drinking so our guys are on higher alert then but we still monitor the younger crowd pretty tight.</p><p></p><p>I only remember one major problem with a firearm the entire time I have been involved in the places I am involved in, and that time it was just an unhappy husband who had got kicked out for hitting his wife in the club and he came back with a shotgun and shot at people in the parking lot (including me- I got hit in my left elbow while dragging one of my employees who was shot several times out of the way to my truck to drive him to the hospital).</p><p></p><p>I remember an old biker bar we used to go to on the weekends in northern California way back in the day. The big burly door man always asked me if I had a knife and or a gun on me- I would always say no because no I didnt have a gun on me (a knife, usually, always)- and he would always say the same thing, " Ah, thats too bad, o well, better watch out then cause more than half of these fckers in here will have one or both".</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="nofearfactor, post: 2465064, member: 1535"] Alcohol and firearms are not a good mix at all, and guns in bars on patrons is definitely no good. As a bar/music venue co-owner for the last 15 years in Iowa and California I do carry in any of our clubs but only when I am there doing business which is usually during the day when the place is closed. If I come by with it on me during business hours (always via the back entrance) its just in and back out quickly stopping by to pick up cash to take to the bank if the place is packed, but never when Im there playing music or there as just a patron listening to a friends band and might be drinking a beer or three. I know for a fact that people are carrying in our establishments- whether theyre legal to or not (meaning Im pretty sure we get more felons carrying than CC holders, hard rock types of bars tend to attract a pretty weird crowd). If our staff suspects a person is carrying something they are pulled aside and pat down, in or out of the place. Our door guys (several of which are and have been off duty law enforcement) do not pat down people on a regular basis during the week during slower business but on Friday and Saturday nights when we have multi band bills and we are packed they will pick out certain people in the crowd here and there that look a little suspicious to check out a lil further. If we checked everyone out though it would take hours to get them in there. Weekends we do all ages shows, usually from 7-10, so the kiddies can come in and rock out too, and then after 10 its 21 and up only with the same bands but the bar is open. The 2nd period is usually our wildest crowd because theyre drinking so our guys are on higher alert then but we still monitor the younger crowd pretty tight. I only remember one major problem with a firearm the entire time I have been involved in the places I am involved in, and that time it was just an unhappy husband who had got kicked out for hitting his wife in the club and he came back with a shotgun and shot at people in the parking lot (including me- I got hit in my left elbow while dragging one of my employees who was shot several times out of the way to my truck to drive him to the hospital). I remember an old biker bar we used to go to on the weekends in northern California way back in the day. The big burly door man always asked me if I had a knife and or a gun on me- I would always say no because no I didnt have a gun on me (a knife, usually, always)- and he would always say the same thing, " Ah, thats too bad, o well, better watch out then cause more than half of these fckers in here will have one or both". [/QUOTE]
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