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I had a run in with a CCW'er last night...
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<blockquote data-quote="Michael Brown" data-source="post: 1593490" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>Apparently you did not read the cross examination of this official during the trial counselor.<img src="/images/smilies/wink2.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":wink2:" title="Wink2 :wink2:" data-shortname=":wink2:" /></p><p></p><p>This statement got torn apart during cross when the "official" admitted to not having had training in this area in years nor ever having ANY specialized training in shooting decisions.</p><p></p><p>He also admitted that his statement was base off the assessment of rumors and other unreliable evidence not facts.</p><p></p><p>While I do agree the Diallo case is not an optimal piece of police work, the post I was responding to used the wallet example and I was illustrating that the comment regarding hindsight knowledge vs. present knowledge is not accepted by courts even in the most disputed cases, of which I consider the Diallo case.</p><p></p><p>I would have expected a "fool-checker" of your stature to recognize that.<img src="/images/smilies/vba9149.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":slap:" title="Vba9149 :slap:" data-shortname=":slap:" /></p><p></p><p>I don't disagree in the slightest that there is an "Us vs. Them" mentality in certain officers as you point out. However I'd say the there is an equally prevelent "Us vs. Them" mentality coming from certain groups of citizens.</p><p></p><p>It takes BOTH an "Us" and a "Them" to create an "Us vs. Them" situation.</p><p></p><p>The bottom line is that both groups are the minority in their pool and no one should broadly judge a group by the distasteful few.</p><p></p><p>Michael Brown</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Michael Brown, post: 1593490, member: 18"] Apparently you did not read the cross examination of this official during the trial counselor.:wink2: This statement got torn apart during cross when the "official" admitted to not having had training in this area in years nor ever having ANY specialized training in shooting decisions. He also admitted that his statement was base off the assessment of rumors and other unreliable evidence not facts. While I do agree the Diallo case is not an optimal piece of police work, the post I was responding to used the wallet example and I was illustrating that the comment regarding hindsight knowledge vs. present knowledge is not accepted by courts even in the most disputed cases, of which I consider the Diallo case. I would have expected a "fool-checker" of your stature to recognize that.:slap: I don't disagree in the slightest that there is an "Us vs. Them" mentality in certain officers as you point out. However I'd say the there is an equally prevelent "Us vs. Them" mentality coming from certain groups of citizens. It takes BOTH an "Us" and a "Them" to create an "Us vs. Them" situation. The bottom line is that both groups are the minority in their pool and no one should broadly judge a group by the distasteful few. Michael Brown [/QUOTE]
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