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If Arsenal AK's are the best, which one to get?
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<blockquote data-quote="aestus" data-source="post: 2334673" data-attributes="member: 2989"><p>Here's a quick overview.</p><p></p><p>Arsenal SGL or SLR = Colt of the AK world. They're built right and function right out of the box. For the longest time, they were the only production built AK's done right. About $1000 for one of these now.</p><p></p><p>Boutique AK's (Rifle Dynamics, Tromix, ect.) = Built with extreme attention to detail. Is an AK worth that level of craftsmanship? It might be for you. For me, not so much.</p><p></p><p>Norinco AK's = Very good AK's for the money. If you don't want or need an AK100 patterned rifle or current issue styled AK's, then these are great options. Used to be the best kept secret when they were $400-$600. The downsides is that you may need some additional "upgrades" to get it into the right configuration as most of these are in the sporter configuration and may or may not have a threaded muzzle. These are typically the thicker 1.6mm receivers. Some see it as a pro, but some see the added weight as a con. Up to you if you want the thicker receiver or not. Now, people are asking for close to what you could get a new Arsenal so to me not as worth it anymore if it's over $700.</p><p></p><p>Parts kit built AK's (Waffen Works, Century Arms, ect.)= Can range from very good to very bad. Like assembled AR's, you're at the mercy of the maker. Most parts kit guns come with a US made receiver and most are US made barrels. I'm a fan of DCI / Nodak Spud receivers, but there's some US made receivers that are just piss poor. Most US made barrels are cheaply made & doesn't compare to the cold hammer forged barrels overseas. Due to lack of understanding of the AK platform, US AK barrel manufacturers have often cut corners by making barrels with incorrect twist rates for the barrel length or wrong bore sizes. This contributed to AK's reputation to just being "cheap, inaccurate bullet hoses." You'll also see things like an increase in canted gas blocks or canted front sights and the rivets can be off in places.</p><p></p><p></p><p>That's just an overview of the AK market. It's very similar to the AR market now. If you just want an AK that you know is properly built, will go bang, and will always retain it's value then get an Arsenal. If you know what to look for and just want a shooter, then go for the parts kit guns made by the various manufacturers. Even Century Arms has a few gems out there that was put together properly. I remember AMD 65's being almost a steal back when they were in stock. Hungarian receiver and CHF barrel made them excellent shooters.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="aestus, post: 2334673, member: 2989"] Here's a quick overview. Arsenal SGL or SLR = Colt of the AK world. They're built right and function right out of the box. For the longest time, they were the only production built AK's done right. About $1000 for one of these now. Boutique AK's (Rifle Dynamics, Tromix, ect.) = Built with extreme attention to detail. Is an AK worth that level of craftsmanship? It might be for you. For me, not so much. Norinco AK's = Very good AK's for the money. If you don't want or need an AK100 patterned rifle or current issue styled AK's, then these are great options. Used to be the best kept secret when they were $400-$600. The downsides is that you may need some additional "upgrades" to get it into the right configuration as most of these are in the sporter configuration and may or may not have a threaded muzzle. These are typically the thicker 1.6mm receivers. Some see it as a pro, but some see the added weight as a con. Up to you if you want the thicker receiver or not. Now, people are asking for close to what you could get a new Arsenal so to me not as worth it anymore if it's over $700. Parts kit built AK's (Waffen Works, Century Arms, ect.)= Can range from very good to very bad. Like assembled AR's, you're at the mercy of the maker. Most parts kit guns come with a US made receiver and most are US made barrels. I'm a fan of DCI / Nodak Spud receivers, but there's some US made receivers that are just piss poor. Most US made barrels are cheaply made & doesn't compare to the cold hammer forged barrels overseas. Due to lack of understanding of the AK platform, US AK barrel manufacturers have often cut corners by making barrels with incorrect twist rates for the barrel length or wrong bore sizes. This contributed to AK's reputation to just being "cheap, inaccurate bullet hoses." You'll also see things like an increase in canted gas blocks or canted front sights and the rivets can be off in places. That's just an overview of the AK market. It's very similar to the AR market now. If you just want an AK that you know is properly built, will go bang, and will always retain it's value then get an Arsenal. If you know what to look for and just want a shooter, then go for the parts kit guns made by the various manufacturers. Even Century Arms has a few gems out there that was put together properly. I remember AMD 65's being almost a steal back when they were in stock. Hungarian receiver and CHF barrel made them excellent shooters. [/QUOTE]
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