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<blockquote data-quote="TSgt Twitch" data-source="post: 2088172" data-attributes="member: 24664"><p>Several anecdotal experiments show farmers trying to hire Americans, even giving incentives to welfare takers. But the bottom line is dirty thoughtless brainless work does not garner $12 an hour pay and the average cost of welfare equates to a $31 an hour job (that includes administrative costs etc to the government) the "average family of four" in just cash/food benefits is closer to 1600 a month (low) and $2k a month (high) which JUST in cash comes out to $10 a hour+ the healthcare, tax breaks, reduced housing cost, SSI etc.. Now you take the average income of a "middle class american" of $25 an hour x160 and it comes out to $4K a month BUT that person looses 7-12% in state/local taxes (ease of math median 10%) leaving 43,200, then 6.2% for SS %40,521 THEN 15% for FED $34, 443 Net income BEFORE paying for healthcare etc. Also they do not get reduced housing cost, tax free forms from local states etc.</p><p></p><p>It is Cheaper and more profitable for a non skilled worker in the US to stay unemployed on welfare than it is to work. that's the problem. IF farmers had to pay above "welfare" rates instead of minimum wage to its workers then MOST farms would go under. We are not talking about 5-10 more cents a pound for strawberries we are talking dollars more per pound and then the cheap stuff we can import from central/south america where slave labor is paid would drown out out local farmers.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TSgt Twitch, post: 2088172, member: 24664"] Several anecdotal experiments show farmers trying to hire Americans, even giving incentives to welfare takers. But the bottom line is dirty thoughtless brainless work does not garner $12 an hour pay and the average cost of welfare equates to a $31 an hour job (that includes administrative costs etc to the government) the "average family of four" in just cash/food benefits is closer to 1600 a month (low) and $2k a month (high) which JUST in cash comes out to $10 a hour+ the healthcare, tax breaks, reduced housing cost, SSI etc.. Now you take the average income of a "middle class american" of $25 an hour x160 and it comes out to $4K a month BUT that person looses 7-12% in state/local taxes (ease of math median 10%) leaving 43,200, then 6.2% for SS %40,521 THEN 15% for FED $34, 443 Net income BEFORE paying for healthcare etc. Also they do not get reduced housing cost, tax free forms from local states etc. It is Cheaper and more profitable for a non skilled worker in the US to stay unemployed on welfare than it is to work. that's the problem. IF farmers had to pay above "welfare" rates instead of minimum wage to its workers then MOST farms would go under. We are not talking about 5-10 more cents a pound for strawberries we are talking dollars more per pound and then the cheap stuff we can import from central/south america where slave labor is paid would drown out out local farmers. [/QUOTE]
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