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Illegal immigrants can pass TSA security checkpoints at the airport without identification.
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<blockquote data-quote="Glocktogo" data-source="post: 4205567" data-attributes="member: 1132"><p>The issue is far more nuanced and difficult to encapsulate than the media or politicos can convey. "Vetted" doesn't mean cleared. It means processed, which encompasses a wide range of vetting. Some of it is sufficient and some of it isn't. The TL;DR version is this.</p><p></p><p>The people who are insufficiently vetted and getting on commercial flights do not pose an imminent threat to that flight, because they're sufficiently screened to ensure they don't have the means to be a threat while onboard.</p><p></p><p>The broader concern is what their intent is while being in this country before their claims can be processed. They've overwhelmed the system to the point that most of them don't even have a projected hearing date. Even those that do are YEARS out, so that leaves far more ineligible claimants in the country than eligible ones.</p><p></p><p>That's a textbook example of a problem. As someone pointed out, the abandonment of identity documents by migrants is a growing problem. They're not just abandoning fraudulent documents. Sometimes they're abandoning authentic documents issued by a recognized government authority. The crucial question is "Why?"</p><p></p><p>Worse yet, there are rampant claims of BP and CBP agents taking what we call VID's (Verifying Identity Documents) and not returning them to the owner. Again, why? I have my suspicions, but absent evidence I'm not willing to air them.</p><p></p><p>Back to the risk, it's not immediate but it's very real. By allowing the overwhelming number of ineligible asylum seekers to disappear into the US interior, we're setting ourselves up major risks to be realized down the road. Don't worry about insufficiently vetted non-US persons getting on flights. Worry about insufficiently vetted non-US persons with financial means, moving freely within our borders, and without sufficient tracking to detect potential threats to national security. <img src="/images/smilies/frown.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" data-shortname=":(" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Glocktogo, post: 4205567, member: 1132"] The issue is far more nuanced and difficult to encapsulate than the media or politicos can convey. "Vetted" doesn't mean cleared. It means processed, which encompasses a wide range of vetting. Some of it is sufficient and some of it isn't. The TL;DR version is this. The people who are insufficiently vetted and getting on commercial flights do not pose an imminent threat to that flight, because they're sufficiently screened to ensure they don't have the means to be a threat while onboard. The broader concern is what their intent is while being in this country before their claims can be processed. They've overwhelmed the system to the point that most of them don't even have a projected hearing date. Even those that do are YEARS out, so that leaves far more ineligible claimants in the country than eligible ones. That's a textbook example of a problem. As someone pointed out, the abandonment of identity documents by migrants is a growing problem. They're not just abandoning fraudulent documents. Sometimes they're abandoning authentic documents issued by a recognized government authority. The crucial question is "Why?" Worse yet, there are rampant claims of BP and CBP agents taking what we call VID's (Verifying Identity Documents) and not returning them to the owner. Again, why? I have my suspicions, but absent evidence I'm not willing to air them. Back to the risk, it's not immediate but it's very real. By allowing the overwhelming number of ineligible asylum seekers to disappear into the US interior, we're setting ourselves up major risks to be realized down the road. Don't worry about insufficiently vetted non-US persons getting on flights. Worry about insufficiently vetted non-US persons with financial means, moving freely within our borders, and without sufficient tracking to detect potential threats to national security. :( [/QUOTE]
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