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Message: <blockquote data-quote="71buickfreak" data-source="post: 1320909" data-attributes="member: 8373">I called BS on this guy when he said he was going to take a fishing reel but no rod, he would just use a willow branch<img src="/images/smilies/bolt.gif"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":bolt:" title="Bolt    :bolt:" data-shortname=":bolt:" />As far as us being "weaklings" nobody said it couldn't be done, just that he should be prepared for the worst. Would you leave your wife for 2 weeks with no way of getting in touch with you in an emergency? that is just stupid, that is the reason we have those things available. roughing it doesn't mean being stupid. and those guys trained for that kind of thing. and a lot more people tried it and died than made it. get your head out of your @ss.I took a rock climbing class in college (lived in Colorado). I told my coach on the first day that I was looking forward to conquering some fourteeners (mountains that reach 14,000 feet). He turned to me and said "you can never conquer a mountain, no man can. You can climb it, be a part of it, but climbers that think they can conquer a mountain die trying." It was very profound and changed my perception not only of climbing, but of life in general. I just think that has bearing on this conversation.........</blockquote>