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<blockquote data-quote="Gideon" data-source="post: 2789375" data-attributes="member: 7898"><p>This entire thread is just caricatures and catechisms.</p><p></p><p>A person can point out, factually, that a significant majority of the Founders were Christians of some kind. That does not mean that they wanted a government that validated or legitimized a particular religion or sect of one.</p><p></p><p>A person can point out, factually, that the first amendment is very clear about the conceptual separation of church and state, and that the Founders were very much against government application and legitimization of religion. That does not mean that any and all references to a particular cultural tradition must be scoured from government.</p><p></p><p>You have to keep in mind, that even though the Declaration of Independence was signed by 32 Episcopalians, 13 Congregationalists, 12 Presbyterians, 2 Quakers, 2 Unitarians, and 1 Catholic, these were people who had a relatively recent understanding of the 30 Years War -- probably the most devastating war in European history. Specifically, that the war only happened because political leaders were allowed to enforce their religious doctrines as law.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gideon, post: 2789375, member: 7898"] This entire thread is just caricatures and catechisms. A person can point out, factually, that a significant majority of the Founders were Christians of some kind. That does not mean that they wanted a government that validated or legitimized a particular religion or sect of one. A person can point out, factually, that the first amendment is very clear about the conceptual separation of church and state, and that the Founders were very much against government application and legitimization of religion. That does not mean that any and all references to a particular cultural tradition must be scoured from government. You have to keep in mind, that even though the Declaration of Independence was signed by 32 Episcopalians, 13 Congregationalists, 12 Presbyterians, 2 Quakers, 2 Unitarians, and 1 Catholic, these were people who had a relatively recent understanding of the 30 Years War -- probably the most devastating war in European history. Specifically, that the war only happened because political leaders were allowed to enforce their religious doctrines as law. [/QUOTE]
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