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<blockquote data-quote="Poke78" data-source="post: 2086153" data-attributes="member: 4333">How is a drawing/raffle like an estate sale? In the case of a raffle, a winning ticket means you fill out the 4473 for the FFL because the Kiwanis/Rotary/etc. never really bought it from the FFL, they&#039;re just paying him for the item you&#039;re receiving as the winner. In the case of an auction-type estate sale, auctioneers bring an FFL to an auction/estate sale for transfer/legal purposes since the auction company is a business but does not hold an FFL so they do the CYA thing. They&#039;ve likely gotten guidance from a lawyer or the BATFE directly on this. OTOH, items can be held out from the estate for a separate sale with the executor selling as an agent for the estate to an individual so state law applies. In OK, that&#039;s a basic FTF sale with no papers required.I&#039;m also aware of gun shops that provide valuation services for estates as part of a disposal process so that also has to go through their bound book if they are the sales agent.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Poke78, post: 2086153, member: 4333"] How is a drawing/raffle like an estate sale? In the case of a raffle, a winning ticket means you fill out the 4473 for the FFL because the Kiwanis/Rotary/etc. never really bought it from the FFL, they're just paying him for the item you're receiving as the winner. In the case of an auction-type estate sale, auctioneers bring an FFL to an auction/estate sale for transfer/legal purposes since the auction company is a business but does not hold an FFL so they do the CYA thing. They've likely gotten guidance from a lawyer or the BATFE directly on this. OTOH, items can be held out from the estate for a separate sale with the executor selling as an agent for the estate to an individual so state law applies. In OK, that's a basic FTF sale with no papers required. I'm also aware of gun shops that provide valuation services for estates as part of a disposal process so that also has to go through their bound book if they are the sales agent. [/QUOTE]

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