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Discussion in 'Self Defense and Handgun Carry' started by dubs chops, Jan 14, 2020.
I recommend CCW safe also it’s worth the peace of mind
For me, yes. I travel to Kansas twice a month, Texas 3-4 times a year, Alabama 1-2 times a year and Missouri once a year.
KS MO and AR are all OK reciprocity states. all the green is.
So what are you trying to say? Now that since we went permit-less, that every cop in Oklahoma is going to all the sudden be all freaked out wondering whether the person they have pulled over has a gun or not...lol?
Look... I agree, if you’re not a bad guy or a criminal, then that means you’ve got nothing to hide and in certain ways just for arguments sake, you shouldn’t have a problem with telling a cop beforehand that you have a gun, or voluntarily showing him your permit if you have one instead of waiting for him to ask but, the law is the law- and it now states that duty to inform is no longer required- unless asked.
And since permits are no longer required to carry, that officer probably isn’t going to even care about that permit as much as you think he will, and whether you take the time to show it to him or not. At least the one I was talking about didn’t, anyway.
I’m not saying you shouldn’t continue showing a traffic cop your pistol permit, and I’m not even trying to talk you out of doing it, I’m just simply saying that times are different now. Before, even if you were a good guy and you told a cop you had a loaded gun in your car, he’s already gonna figure you have a permit, or at least he’ll be hoping you have one because before, you could only do that with a permit. Now, it doesn’t matter because permits are no longer required. And technically, if he doesn’t ask, you don’t have to tell him anything so, credibility and brownie points mean nothing. You saying it does, is like saying somebody who gets pulled over who has a gun, loaded, no permit, and doesn’t voluntarily inform- you know, doing what the law permits, is suggesting that that person won’t be as well off, credibility-wise as someone who still sings to the old tune.
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I’m not trying to make a mockery of your post or your situation but first off, was this after November first, or before? I’m assuming it was after but either way, if you didn’t carry your wallet in the same compartment as your gun, you wouldn’t have had a problem. If only your gun was in your lunch box, you could’ve pulled your wallet out of your back pocket, out of your glove box or out of your center console and she probably wouldn’t have thought nothin’ of it. But since you kept your wallet where your gun is, it’s a very wise thing you did tell her there was a gun in your lunch box because of you hadn’t have, she woulda flipped a biscuit as soon as you opened that lunch box and she saw your undisclosed gun...lol.
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No, the new carry law has nothing to do with it.
Criminals are always a concern, because they don't obey the laws. Officers have no way of knowing what they'll encounter when they approach your vehicle.
You asked why informing the officer on a traffic stop would make a difference, and I simply gave you my opinion. I stand by that.
It's still your call.
I'm presuming that graphic is relative to states with reciprocity with Oklahoma's permitless carry law. By contrast, this is a link to the OSBI's page regarding the reciprocity states for those that have permits. (Scroll down to the bottom of the webpage.)
States with Reciprocity with Oklahoma's SDA Permits
But without a permit @TerryMiller , yes the states in green are OK with me traveling to there with a gun and no permit.
It still amazes me that Texas doesn't have permitless carry.
According to both of those maps I'll keep my permit and take the permit reciprocity map for now like I say until everybody is on a same page. Heck, with "constitutional carry " you can't make it to any USA coast or border from Oklahoma legally except the Louisiana coast.