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<blockquote data-quote="corneileous" data-source="post: 3314896" data-attributes="member: 45041"><p>So what are you trying to say? Now that since we went permit-less, that every cop in Oklahoma is going to all the sudden be all freaked out wondering whether the person they have pulled over has a gun or not...lol? </p><p></p><p>Look... I agree, if you’re not a bad guy or a criminal, then that means you’ve got nothing to hide and in certain ways just for arguments sake, you shouldn’t have a problem with telling a cop beforehand that you have a gun, or voluntarily showing him your permit if you have one instead of waiting for him to ask but, the law is the law- and it now states that duty to inform is no longer required- unless asked. </p><p></p><p>And since permits are no longer required to carry, that officer probably isn’t going to even care about that permit as much as you think he will, and whether you take the time to show it to him or not. At least the one I was talking about didn’t, anyway.</p><p></p><p>I’m not saying you shouldn’t continue showing a traffic cop your pistol permit, and I’m not even trying to talk you out of doing it, I’m just simply saying that times are different now. Before, even if you were a good guy and you told a cop you had a loaded gun in your car, he’s already gonna figure you have a permit, or at least he’ll be hoping you have one because before, you could only do that with a permit. Now, it doesn’t matter because permits are no longer required. And technically, if he doesn’t ask, you don’t have to tell him anything so, credibility and brownie points mean nothing. You saying it does, is like saying somebody who gets pulled over who has a gun, loaded, no permit, and doesn’t voluntarily inform- you know, doing what the law permits, is suggesting that that person won’t be as well off, credibility-wise as someone who still sings to the old tune. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="corneileous, post: 3314896, member: 45041"] So what are you trying to say? Now that since we went permit-less, that every cop in Oklahoma is going to all the sudden be all freaked out wondering whether the person they have pulled over has a gun or not...lol? Look... I agree, if you’re not a bad guy or a criminal, then that means you’ve got nothing to hide and in certain ways just for arguments sake, you shouldn’t have a problem with telling a cop beforehand that you have a gun, or voluntarily showing him your permit if you have one instead of waiting for him to ask but, the law is the law- and it now states that duty to inform is no longer required- unless asked. And since permits are no longer required to carry, that officer probably isn’t going to even care about that permit as much as you think he will, and whether you take the time to show it to him or not. At least the one I was talking about didn’t, anyway. I’m not saying you shouldn’t continue showing a traffic cop your pistol permit, and I’m not even trying to talk you out of doing it, I’m just simply saying that times are different now. Before, even if you were a good guy and you told a cop you had a loaded gun in your car, he’s already gonna figure you have a permit, or at least he’ll be hoping you have one because before, you could only do that with a permit. Now, it doesn’t matter because permits are no longer required. And technically, if he doesn’t ask, you don’t have to tell him anything so, credibility and brownie points mean nothing. You saying it does, is like saying somebody who gets pulled over who has a gun, loaded, no permit, and doesn’t voluntarily inform- you know, doing what the law permits, is suggesting that that person won’t be as well off, credibility-wise as someone who still sings to the old tune. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk [/QUOTE]
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