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<blockquote data-quote="uncle money bags" data-source="post: 2588833" data-attributes="member: 8377"><p>I think a fundamental stumbling block between the two sides represented by TK/Henschman and SMS/UMB is our position on whether or not to remain isolationist or practice engagement in matters of alliances. Regardless of what arguments are made by either side, that one issue is the prism by which each view is seen.</p><p>Of course there are the anti jew and the pro jew factions which raise their head on occasion, but that is a whole 'nuther bag of worms which doesnt do anything but inflame the situation.</p><p>I too understand the argument in favor of fighting the oppression by Israel. I also believe that Israel has very little choice in the matter if they intend to survive themselves. This is coming from someone who supported the Chechen fight for independence from Russia before the former resorted to killing school children as an acceptable tool of war making. Had the Russians strapped those kids to a tank or placed them in "internationally recognized" neutral places to protect Russian arms and fighters, then all bets are off. But that isnt what happened. </p><p>Coupled with the similar notions of those Islamic fighters with the operatives in Hamas, Muslim Brotherhood, etc. in which they have declared war on the United States and Israel then it isnt unreasonable to want them controlled. </p><p>As to the PA/Hamas v. Israel solution. What do you think is a reasonable solution to the issue that would promote a peaceful resolution?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="uncle money bags, post: 2588833, member: 8377"] I think a fundamental stumbling block between the two sides represented by TK/Henschman and SMS/UMB is our position on whether or not to remain isolationist or practice engagement in matters of alliances. Regardless of what arguments are made by either side, that one issue is the prism by which each view is seen. Of course there are the anti jew and the pro jew factions which raise their head on occasion, but that is a whole 'nuther bag of worms which doesnt do anything but inflame the situation. I too understand the argument in favor of fighting the oppression by Israel. I also believe that Israel has very little choice in the matter if they intend to survive themselves. This is coming from someone who supported the Chechen fight for independence from Russia before the former resorted to killing school children as an acceptable tool of war making. Had the Russians strapped those kids to a tank or placed them in "internationally recognized" neutral places to protect Russian arms and fighters, then all bets are off. But that isnt what happened. Coupled with the similar notions of those Islamic fighters with the operatives in Hamas, Muslim Brotherhood, etc. in which they have declared war on the United States and Israel then it isnt unreasonable to want them controlled. As to the PA/Hamas v. Israel solution. What do you think is a reasonable solution to the issue that would promote a peaceful resolution? [/QUOTE]
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