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<blockquote data-quote="Billybob" data-source="post: 2589586" data-attributes="member: 1294"><p>Again Israel was not attacked, they lied. Then they claimed a pre-emptive strike was needed, in retrospect that claim is disputed even by some in the Israeli Gov. at the time.</p><p></p><p>Following that there are also issues in the Geneva Convention regarding occupied territories which will one day have to be addressed.</p><p></p><p>It's well known many want to claim religion/chosen people as a reason for supporting Israel, do genetics or actions support that? if so then it should be taken care divinely of without our financial support. Others claim a legal right of sorts, if so then let the courts work it out, where's the faith, where's the rule of law? </p><p>And if neither of those reasons can stand strict scrutiny then maybe there needs to be more discussion and some need to remember the lesson learned some years ago about Lebensraum, alleged superiority and social Darwinism.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Though Israel had struck first, Israel initially claimed that it was attacked first. Later it claimed that its attack was a preemptive strike in the face of a planned invasion of Israel by the Arab countries.[6] ...</p><p></p><p>After the war, Israeli officials admitted that Israel wasn't expecting to be attacked when it initiated hostilities against Egypt.[18][19] Mordechai Bentov, an Israeli cabinet minister who attended the June 4th Cabinet meeting, called into question the idea that there was a "danger of extermination" saying that it was "invented of whole cloth and exaggerated after the fact to justify the annexation of new Arab territories."[20][21] Israel received reports from the United States to the effect that Egyptian deployments were defensive and anticipatory of a possible Israeli attack,[14] and the US assessed that if anything, it was Israel that was pressing to begin hostilities.[21] Abba Eban, Israel's foreign minister during the war, later wrote in his autobiography that Nasser's assurances he wasn't planning to attack Israel were credible: "Nasser did not want war. He wanted victory without war." [22] Israeli military historian Martin van Creveld has written that while the exact origins of the war may never be known, Israel's forces were "spoiling for a fight and willing to go to considerable lengths to provoke one".[23</p><p></p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controv...Combat_support" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controv...Combat_support</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Billybob, post: 2589586, member: 1294"] Again Israel was not attacked, they lied. Then they claimed a pre-emptive strike was needed, in retrospect that claim is disputed even by some in the Israeli Gov. at the time. Following that there are also issues in the Geneva Convention regarding occupied territories which will one day have to be addressed. It's well known many want to claim religion/chosen people as a reason for supporting Israel, do genetics or actions support that? if so then it should be taken care divinely of without our financial support. Others claim a legal right of sorts, if so then let the courts work it out, where's the faith, where's the rule of law? And if neither of those reasons can stand strict scrutiny then maybe there needs to be more discussion and some need to remember the lesson learned some years ago about Lebensraum, alleged superiority and social Darwinism. Though Israel had struck first, Israel initially claimed that it was attacked first. Later it claimed that its attack was a preemptive strike in the face of a planned invasion of Israel by the Arab countries.[6] ... After the war, Israeli officials admitted that Israel wasn't expecting to be attacked when it initiated hostilities against Egypt.[18][19] Mordechai Bentov, an Israeli cabinet minister who attended the June 4th Cabinet meeting, called into question the idea that there was a "danger of extermination" saying that it was "invented of whole cloth and exaggerated after the fact to justify the annexation of new Arab territories."[20][21] Israel received reports from the United States to the effect that Egyptian deployments were defensive and anticipatory of a possible Israeli attack,[14] and the US assessed that if anything, it was Israel that was pressing to begin hostilities.[21] Abba Eban, Israel's foreign minister during the war, later wrote in his autobiography that Nasser's assurances he wasn't planning to attack Israel were credible: "Nasser did not want war. He wanted victory without war." [22] Israeli military historian Martin van Creveld has written that while the exact origins of the war may never be known, Israel's forces were "spoiling for a fight and willing to go to considerable lengths to provoke one".[23 [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controv...Combat_support[/url] [/QUOTE]
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