Forums
New posts
Search forums
What's new
New posts
New media
New media comments
Latest activity
Classifieds
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Log in
Register
What's New?
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
New posts
Search forums
Menu
Log in
Register
Navigation
Install the app
Install
More Options
Advertise with us
Contact Us
Close Menu
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Forums
The Water Cooler
General Discussion
It's Final -- Corn Ethanol Is Of No Use
Search titles only
By:
Reply to Thread
This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, and others.
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Nraman" data-source="post: 2492662" data-attributes="member: 10001"><p>When the ethanol business got started, MIT published a paper showing that the ethanol production from start to finish was producing more carbon than gasoline from start to finish.</p><p>The federal government, with that information in their hands decided to increase ethanol production, the opposite of what a reasonable person would expect.</p><p>That's how things work in DC, it all started with the Viagra and former senator Bob Dole from Kansas, a state that grows a lot of corn.</p><p>Nothing to do with the environment, most environmentalists were against it but kept quiet afraid of the backlash.</p><p>In the mean time, ADM (Supermarket to the world) and other huge agri corporations did what they do best, get more corporate welfare (Bob Dole is an official ADM lobbyist and gets cash and use of the corporate jet), while the public gets screwed in more ways than one.</p><p>The latest environmental study will achieve nothing for the simple reason that the ethanol business never had to do anything with the environment, it had to do with ripping off the taxpayers.</p><p>People are so happy to find the useful idiots (the environmentalists) to hate that always miss the real problem.</p><p>No different than oil in the federal lands. You can blame the barefoot hippies if it makes you feel good but it has nothing to do with reality.</p><p>The US is an OPEC country (unofficially of course) and as such it does what OPEC does, restricts production to maintain high prices. This by the way is the official position of the government.</p><p>This of course is not the only area where the government controls production to maintain high prices, that's what the Farm Bill is all about, that's why the government pays people not to grow, stuff everybody is familiar with.</p><p>The problem is that when a business gets their prices artificially higher than what the market can bear, the consumer will get the shaft.</p><p>Next time you hear about the environmentalists stopping oil production, ask yourself, how many hippies vote Republican and why the Republicans are not able to lift restrictions on oil production on federal lands even when they have the White House, Senate and Representatives. </p><p>They don't want to.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nraman, post: 2492662, member: 10001"] When the ethanol business got started, MIT published a paper showing that the ethanol production from start to finish was producing more carbon than gasoline from start to finish. The federal government, with that information in their hands decided to increase ethanol production, the opposite of what a reasonable person would expect. That's how things work in DC, it all started with the Viagra and former senator Bob Dole from Kansas, a state that grows a lot of corn. Nothing to do with the environment, most environmentalists were against it but kept quiet afraid of the backlash. In the mean time, ADM (Supermarket to the world) and other huge agri corporations did what they do best, get more corporate welfare (Bob Dole is an official ADM lobbyist and gets cash and use of the corporate jet), while the public gets screwed in more ways than one. The latest environmental study will achieve nothing for the simple reason that the ethanol business never had to do anything with the environment, it had to do with ripping off the taxpayers. People are so happy to find the useful idiots (the environmentalists) to hate that always miss the real problem. No different than oil in the federal lands. You can blame the barefoot hippies if it makes you feel good but it has nothing to do with reality. The US is an OPEC country (unofficially of course) and as such it does what OPEC does, restricts production to maintain high prices. This by the way is the official position of the government. This of course is not the only area where the government controls production to maintain high prices, that's what the Farm Bill is all about, that's why the government pays people not to grow, stuff everybody is familiar with. The problem is that when a business gets their prices artificially higher than what the market can bear, the consumer will get the shaft. Next time you hear about the environmentalists stopping oil production, ask yourself, how many hippies vote Republican and why the Republicans are not able to lift restrictions on oil production on federal lands even when they have the White House, Senate and Representatives. They don't want to. [/QUOTE]
Insert Quotes…
Verification
Post Reply
Forums
The Water Cooler
General Discussion
It's Final -- Corn Ethanol Is Of No Use
Search titles only
By:
Top
Bottom
