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Kentucky Long Rifle giving me a beating.
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<blockquote data-quote="Lurker66" data-source="post: 2577108" data-attributes="member: 24459"><p>Cool. Heres short answer. Your using way too much of the wrong powder. Not that Im a great BP guru but ive been doing this a long time. Stick with me cause ill explain some stuff. Maybe we can discuss it and learn something.</p><p></p><p>Shoot real BP in your traditional guns. Fake stuff, degrades over time. That stuff is very inconsistent anyways.</p><p></p><p>Years ago, .50 cal shooter used much less grains per shot, depending on species. Buffalo was in the 90 to 120 grain range with a prb. But you aint huntin buffalo. Your plinkin or shootin deer.</p><p></p><p>Let the inline guys who shoot pellets, use scopes n sabots, shoot the heavy loads. They needs lots of velocity to make their sabots expand.</p><p></p><p>Traditional shooters shoot a soft lead ball. Youll get awesome expansion and penetration if youll cut your load down to the 50-70gr range. </p><p></p><p>If you read old articles and advice, they recomend working up a load starting at one(1) grain per caliber size. So you would start at 50gr. And work your way up until you found a accurate load. From my years of experience that happy spot is always under 70gr.</p><p></p><p>Another thing. Your gun isnt really based on a particular "style". Its called a Kentucky but thats more a marketing ploy. Your rifle is a mix of Kentucky, Tennessee, Virginia and Pennsylvania styles. Your stock shape doesnt lend itself to heavy loads. Where as a Hawkens type shape does.</p><p></p><p>Each "style" of muzzle.loader shoots and handles recoil very different. Virginia type MLers in .50 can be brutal if the loads aint kept low. Tennessee style are great in the smaller calibers but jump them up to the "hog" rifles and recoil really sucks in 50 n 54 caliber and thats with med heavy loads.</p><p></p><p>If you insist on shooting heavy loads, I recommend a Hawkens or Plains Rifle. Simple reason is they were designed for killing bigger game and heavier loads. Elk, Grizzly, Buffalo. The Eastern styles of rifles where more designed for deer, hogs, small game, utility farm type weapons.</p><p></p><p>So my recommendation is to just drop down to about 60-70gr. With a PRB thatll get ya mostly pass thru's and lotsa dead deer out to about 100ish yards. All with a lot less felt recoil.</p><p></p><p>Just wanna add that 1:66 is great for RB but not so much for conicals. You can get away with shootin them but they really need a faster twist.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lurker66, post: 2577108, member: 24459"] Cool. Heres short answer. Your using way too much of the wrong powder. Not that Im a great BP guru but ive been doing this a long time. Stick with me cause ill explain some stuff. Maybe we can discuss it and learn something. Shoot real BP in your traditional guns. Fake stuff, degrades over time. That stuff is very inconsistent anyways. Years ago, .50 cal shooter used much less grains per shot, depending on species. Buffalo was in the 90 to 120 grain range with a prb. But you aint huntin buffalo. Your plinkin or shootin deer. Let the inline guys who shoot pellets, use scopes n sabots, shoot the heavy loads. They needs lots of velocity to make their sabots expand. Traditional shooters shoot a soft lead ball. Youll get awesome expansion and penetration if youll cut your load down to the 50-70gr range. If you read old articles and advice, they recomend working up a load starting at one(1) grain per caliber size. So you would start at 50gr. And work your way up until you found a accurate load. From my years of experience that happy spot is always under 70gr. Another thing. Your gun isnt really based on a particular "style". Its called a Kentucky but thats more a marketing ploy. Your rifle is a mix of Kentucky, Tennessee, Virginia and Pennsylvania styles. Your stock shape doesnt lend itself to heavy loads. Where as a Hawkens type shape does. Each "style" of muzzle.loader shoots and handles recoil very different. Virginia type MLers in .50 can be brutal if the loads aint kept low. Tennessee style are great in the smaller calibers but jump them up to the "hog" rifles and recoil really sucks in 50 n 54 caliber and thats with med heavy loads. If you insist on shooting heavy loads, I recommend a Hawkens or Plains Rifle. Simple reason is they were designed for killing bigger game and heavier loads. Elk, Grizzly, Buffalo. The Eastern styles of rifles where more designed for deer, hogs, small game, utility farm type weapons. So my recommendation is to just drop down to about 60-70gr. With a PRB thatll get ya mostly pass thru's and lotsa dead deer out to about 100ish yards. All with a lot less felt recoil. Just wanna add that 1:66 is great for RB but not so much for conicals. You can get away with shootin them but they really need a faster twist. [/QUOTE]
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