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Message: <blockquote data-quote="bettingpython" data-source="post: 1322105" data-attributes="member: 4307">I will agree with Jerry on this one, as welcome as non LEO plane jane civvies are in TDSA classes the fact of the matter is that they are geared for the guy who does it for a living.  It was a different experience for me having never been in Law Enforcement or the Military but I was prepared to be behind the curve when I took his carbine 1 class. It was a real eye opener and even though they didn't act like douche's as some have said of Larry Vickers the fact of the matter was if you are the sensitive type then training with the big boys is probably not what you want to do.  I learned alot about what does and does not work, actually made some changes to my AR platform 1/2 way through the first day because I will tell you though it looked good but it was flat out wrong, and the TDSA instructors have no problem telling you it's wrong in just about the same minimum of words, were they being douches? No but they were trying to get me to the same level as some really serious shooters in that class had I been a sandy vagina sort of fellow I probably would have whined about the way I was treated. LAV is making a point he is not trying to impress the keyboard jockey's he has developed a weapons platform combination that works and he is trying to sell it the pro's.</blockquote>