Lead round nose hunting

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I am not going to argue with anyone on how OK law written or interpreted, as I have only been in this state for 8yrs...other southern states in which I have lived meant "softpoint jacketed" and "hollowpoint jacketed", where you might get off the hook with a HP plain lead bullet, but the regs were to force the use of expanding bullets as far as the ignorant understand them....

nevermind that I can drive a fairly soft cast SWC to 1200-1400fps and get good expansion, since as far as they are concerned, a plain lead bullet is non-expanding...

and that is generally going to be true of any RN bullet which has no ability to even cut a full caliber hole, and will poke ineffective holes unless very precise placement on very very few spots.

On a positive note, if shooting largest critters, the RN will penetrate from here to next week, and if of sufficient diameter and velocity will expand some on heavy bone or reach an elephant brain through 3ft of spongy bone....but, very few cape buffalo and elephant around here as far as I know.
 
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While i agree with the above post- that the rule prohibits full metal jackets, and any plain lead bullet should be fine.. ( imagine going out with a hawken and round ball and being told you’re wrong!) but- i would highly recommend using a flat nose lead, not round nose- in the old cartridge designs, as it will cut closer to a full diameter hole, and be more likely to flatten out a little, creating at least a little expansion..
 

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While i agree with the above post- that the rule prohibits full metal jackets, and any plain lead bullet should be fine.. ( imagine going out with a hawken and round ball and being told you’re wrong!) but- i would highly recommend using a flat nose lead, not round nose- in the old cartridge designs, as it will cut closer to a full diameter hole, and be more likely to flatten out a little, creating at least a little expansion..
Muzzle loader patched round ball are dead soft lead, very high velocity and perform all out of proportion to diameter....58 minies work fine on deer, while the poster likely is talking commercial hard cast handloads or cowboy loads with harder bullets, or he would not even be asking the question. Jacketed softpoint are also dead soft lead and at high velocity, ditto the jacketed HPs.
 

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I wonder why in Hunting we use Expanding Bullets
In War we use only FMJ from Pistols and Rifles.

Seems odd to me.

A well placed shot is the best method not necessarily bullet type.

I know the OP knows that fact already.

I'm just thinking a Hunter should be able to use weapon of choice and bullet type of choice.
A 22LR will kill a deer with a good shot placement. Of course a 7mm Mag will definitely makeup for a misplaced shot.

If a sling shot and knife are all you have, you should be able to hunt if you want, without Government interference.
 

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