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<blockquote data-quote="Koshinn" data-source="post: 1649686" data-attributes="member: 18314"><p>The ATF has specifically stated that M855 is NOT armor piercing ammo. I have no citation for this, I can't find it on the ATF's new-ish site.</p><p></p><p>Also, due to hilarity in the 90s, most states with AP ammo bans require that the ammo have teflon coats before it's banned. It was believed (and reinforced by movies like Ronin) that teflon allowed bullets to penetrate vests better. That was wrong; the teflon coating was used to reduce wear on the barrel. Modern AP ammo generally has a sheathe of copper (at least near the base where the bullet grips the rifling) instead of teflon to protect the weapon.</p><p></p><p>Regarding original intent, that doesn't really matter. What matters is if the round can be used in a pistol, and 5.56x45 is used in AR pistols and that Keltec PLR-16 pistol. This is why in Hawaii, for example, it's not quite clear if 30 rd STANAG mags are banned or not, because Hawaii bans 11+ rd pistol mags, but allows large rifle mags. The unclear part is that "assault pistols" are banned in Hawaii too (basically AR pistols, the PLR-16, and pretty much anything else you can think of that's big and heavy and pretends to be a pistol), so a STANAG mag technically cannot be legally used in a pistol. This is why everyone in Hawaii actually uses 30 rd AR mags, but no one online will sell a 30 rd mag to a Hawaii resident. But then there's another loop hole where you technically CAN have an AR pistol and PLR-16 if you use a bullet button (kalifornia style), but I don't know a single person who has tested that theory... and if it works, it would again ban 30 rd AR mags. I hate sloppy statutes.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Koshinn, post: 1649686, member: 18314"] The ATF has specifically stated that M855 is NOT armor piercing ammo. I have no citation for this, I can't find it on the ATF's new-ish site. Also, due to hilarity in the 90s, most states with AP ammo bans require that the ammo have teflon coats before it's banned. It was believed (and reinforced by movies like Ronin) that teflon allowed bullets to penetrate vests better. That was wrong; the teflon coating was used to reduce wear on the barrel. Modern AP ammo generally has a sheathe of copper (at least near the base where the bullet grips the rifling) instead of teflon to protect the weapon. Regarding original intent, that doesn't really matter. What matters is if the round can be used in a pistol, and 5.56x45 is used in AR pistols and that Keltec PLR-16 pistol. This is why in Hawaii, for example, it's not quite clear if 30 rd STANAG mags are banned or not, because Hawaii bans 11+ rd pistol mags, but allows large rifle mags. The unclear part is that "assault pistols" are banned in Hawaii too (basically AR pistols, the PLR-16, and pretty much anything else you can think of that's big and heavy and pretends to be a pistol), so a STANAG mag technically cannot be legally used in a pistol. This is why everyone in Hawaii actually uses 30 rd AR mags, but no one online will sell a 30 rd mag to a Hawaii resident. But then there's another loop hole where you technically CAN have an AR pistol and PLR-16 if you use a bullet button (kalifornia style), but I don't know a single person who has tested that theory... and if it works, it would again ban 30 rd AR mags. I hate sloppy statutes. [/QUOTE]
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