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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Pokinfun" data-source="post: 2772880" data-attributes="member: 28113">look in the classified sections of all the long range shooting forums. You can find a second hand vortex for about half the price of new. With vortex it doesn't matter if you buy used, any problems you just send it to them. Vortex has an awesome lifetime warranty, it doesn't matter if you are the first or 10th owner, they still warranty it. When got mine I emailed and told them I got it used without the sunshield, and asked for the part number so I could buy one. They emailed me back and asked what all I got with the scope. They mailed me a scope box with all of the stuff that comes with a new scope, free.</blockquote>