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<blockquote data-quote="Joeh" data-source="post: 2135544" data-attributes="member: 18680"><p>If this is truly the answer, then were we not doomed as a country from the start? Will our centralized government, and for that matter our country, go the same route as all of the world powers that came before us? If we are not able to prevent, what appears to me to be inevitable, then how can we have any hope that the next evolutionary cycle can do better? I'd like to think that we're reaching a point in our country that unrest is becoming something too large to ignore; the people of our country are growing tired of the lies, deceit, and lust for power. But, as I look at my peers, this isn't what I see. I see a group of young people who are ready and <strong>willing</strong> to sacrifice their own liberties in the pursuit of what the government tells them is good. Not to mention that talk of anything different is met with only hate and disdain. I never thought I'd grow up to be the guy that everyone thought was crazy, who wanted to live in the middle of no where and just be left alone, but I'm starting to feel like that would be a lot better than I ever imagined. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Perhaps they haven't. I enjoy a solid back and forth conversation, so it is entirely possible that they were simply holding the opposite side of the debate. I know very little of their actual stance on the 2A, but I imagine she would be willing to 'compromise' our rights, where compromise reads as 'give up something you have, for nothing in return'. </p><p></p><p>Despite being a few short months away from taking the BAR, I'm not sure she would see the irony in her position. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Unfortunately I'd have to agree. Even before this discussion, when I had a weaker position (thanks for all the positive remarks and educated responses!) I was still considered to be an extremist by many of my friends. It astounds me the rate at which my peers are willing to sacrifice rights and liberties for perceived gains. They refuse to educate themselves on the subjects, rather deferring to the government/media for their opinion.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Hell, I would love to see an individual that holds an office, to do it WITHOUT being threatened with penalty, simply because it is the <strong>right</strong> thing to do. They are supposed to serve, they are supposed to do what is best for the people. They should not <strong>need </strong>to be reminded that their job is to uphold the existing law, yet here we are... Personal honor through doing the right thing is all but dead in the political realm. The chase for power and who can make the biggest media splash is all that matters now. Those who do good, by nature, are trampled in the process. </p><p></p><p>I wonder how long it will take before my friends, or before the rest of my demographic, becomes aware enough of these problems that something must be done. When will enough be enough? Obviously, dismantling the 2A isn't where the line is drawn, since even here in Oklahoma I have enough friends that would do away with it that it scares me. Will it be the 1st? What about the 4th? Maybe it will be something else entirely. The problem I have is that it has made it this far, without being stopped, simply because those of us who should be calling for government compliance with the constitution, are too busy to worry about it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Joeh, post: 2135544, member: 18680"] If this is truly the answer, then were we not doomed as a country from the start? Will our centralized government, and for that matter our country, go the same route as all of the world powers that came before us? If we are not able to prevent, what appears to me to be inevitable, then how can we have any hope that the next evolutionary cycle can do better? I'd like to think that we're reaching a point in our country that unrest is becoming something too large to ignore; the people of our country are growing tired of the lies, deceit, and lust for power. But, as I look at my peers, this isn't what I see. I see a group of young people who are ready and [B]willing[/B] to sacrifice their own liberties in the pursuit of what the government tells them is good. Not to mention that talk of anything different is met with only hate and disdain. I never thought I'd grow up to be the guy that everyone thought was crazy, who wanted to live in the middle of no where and just be left alone, but I'm starting to feel like that would be a lot better than I ever imagined. Perhaps they haven't. I enjoy a solid back and forth conversation, so it is entirely possible that they were simply holding the opposite side of the debate. I know very little of their actual stance on the 2A, but I imagine she would be willing to 'compromise' our rights, where compromise reads as 'give up something you have, for nothing in return'. Despite being a few short months away from taking the BAR, I'm not sure she would see the irony in her position. Unfortunately I'd have to agree. Even before this discussion, when I had a weaker position (thanks for all the positive remarks and educated responses!) I was still considered to be an extremist by many of my friends. It astounds me the rate at which my peers are willing to sacrifice rights and liberties for perceived gains. They refuse to educate themselves on the subjects, rather deferring to the government/media for their opinion. Hell, I would love to see an individual that holds an office, to do it WITHOUT being threatened with penalty, simply because it is the [B]right[/B] thing to do. They are supposed to serve, they are supposed to do what is best for the people. They should not [B]need [/B]to be reminded that their job is to uphold the existing law, yet here we are... Personal honor through doing the right thing is all but dead in the political realm. The chase for power and who can make the biggest media splash is all that matters now. Those who do good, by nature, are trampled in the process. I wonder how long it will take before my friends, or before the rest of my demographic, becomes aware enough of these problems that something must be done. When will enough be enough? Obviously, dismantling the 2A isn't where the line is drawn, since even here in Oklahoma I have enough friends that would do away with it that it scares me. Will it be the 1st? What about the 4th? Maybe it will be something else entirely. The problem I have is that it has made it this far, without being stopped, simply because those of us who should be calling for government compliance with the constitution, are too busy to worry about it. [/QUOTE]
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