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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TwoForFlinching" data-source="post: 3262620" data-attributes="member: 24500">Yeah, the current green infrastructure is a camel. But anytime you have a committee sitting around trying to design a horse, it'll be like that. Everyone wants a piece of that pie. Remember when the air filters from one cabin of the Apollo11 'ship' wouldn't fit the other necause both companies needed to justify massive costs?  The grid is so efficient because it was built by a single dude. Imagine simplifying the new power generation by this method. I see the investment in things like wind farms practical because you build and maintain it, fuel for it flows freely. It doesn't cost energy to make that energy. NG is a solid performer that is miles better than coal and coke, but it requires energy to make that energy in the processes of drilling and transporting. So much waste. It's cheap now, but won't be forever. Supply and demand will raise that cost when a bulk of plants run on it. Solar and wind cost big up front, but pay themselves off. Solar more than anything, at least until someone designs a truly lasting wind tower transmission. You don't have to spend energy to keep generating that energy. It's efficient. Don't get me wrong, I'm no granola eating hippie. I'd just rather extend fossil fuels intomore practical use like travel. Car manufacturers may think they can flip every car electric, though that'd be great, it's impractical until they can get 1000 miles off a charge in a pack that can last twenty years. They should focus more on fossil fuel efficiency in cars. A Jeep Wrangler overseas gets 47mpg on diesel... not available in the US. Same with Toyota pickups and countless foreign vehicle brands. Not importable either. I assume there's some kind of an oil company kickback going on in the gov...</blockquote>

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