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<blockquote data-quote="VitruvianDoc" data-source="post: 1339618" data-attributes="member: 13736"><p>Tricks of the trade:</p><p></p><p>First: check for signs of frame damage</p><p>Look at body panels from three angles, two at 60 degrees and at 90 degrees. Look for warping, dents, gaps between panels. Anything that stands out at 2 angles or more may signify frame damage.</p><p></p><p>Pop the hood. Look at bolts. They are put on and painted from factory so if paint is missing or ratchet marks are present, signifies panel has been removed or modified. Next, look a pinch welds and creases. Any change in paint, cracking in paint, or wavyness indicates frame damage. Check radiator supports and see if they are oem and show signs of being removed.</p><p></p><p>Next climb under the car and look at frame rails and pinch welds. Clamp marks will be evident from a frame straightener and penetrating rust may indicate previous unfixed damage and/or damaged frame from a salty environment.</p><p></p><p>Second: Paint check</p><p>Run your finger along all the body grooves such as grooves of the hood, quarter panels, doors, trunk lid, etc. Paint should feel like glass, if it doesnt it isnt factory paint. Such feelings that indicate non factory paint are rough edges, wavy edges, or uneven blending (smooth to rough to smooth). Also do a three angle check of paint to make sure colors look right.</p><p></p><p>Lastly, pop some trim panels along the doors on the inside and check the integrity of the creases and paint there.</p><p></p><p>Other things you can do: verify VIN panels match on panel parts, etc.</p><p></p><p>Do all this first before you consider examening the other parts of the car.</p><p></p><p>Next examine interior and exterior to see if it meets your Okay and then test drive. Turn off all sounds (radio, air, etc) and listen during turns and straightaways for clunks, yatta. In park, shift a couple of times between modes if automatic and listen for noises. Many other things to look for here to.</p><p></p><p>Only upon passing those two things will I consider a car, but I also must have a carfax and I still have a mechanic throw it on a lift and do some more thorough inspecting.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="VitruvianDoc, post: 1339618, member: 13736"] Tricks of the trade: First: check for signs of frame damage Look at body panels from three angles, two at 60 degrees and at 90 degrees. Look for warping, dents, gaps between panels. Anything that stands out at 2 angles or more may signify frame damage. Pop the hood. Look at bolts. They are put on and painted from factory so if paint is missing or ratchet marks are present, signifies panel has been removed or modified. Next, look a pinch welds and creases. Any change in paint, cracking in paint, or wavyness indicates frame damage. Check radiator supports and see if they are oem and show signs of being removed. Next climb under the car and look at frame rails and pinch welds. Clamp marks will be evident from a frame straightener and penetrating rust may indicate previous unfixed damage and/or damaged frame from a salty environment. Second: Paint check Run your finger along all the body grooves such as grooves of the hood, quarter panels, doors, trunk lid, etc. Paint should feel like glass, if it doesnt it isnt factory paint. Such feelings that indicate non factory paint are rough edges, wavy edges, or uneven blending (smooth to rough to smooth). Also do a three angle check of paint to make sure colors look right. Lastly, pop some trim panels along the doors on the inside and check the integrity of the creases and paint there. Other things you can do: verify VIN panels match on panel parts, etc. Do all this first before you consider examening the other parts of the car. Next examine interior and exterior to see if it meets your Okay and then test drive. Turn off all sounds (radio, air, etc) and listen during turns and straightaways for clunks, yatta. In park, shift a couple of times between modes if automatic and listen for noises. Many other things to look for here to. Only upon passing those two things will I consider a car, but I also must have a carfax and I still have a mechanic throw it on a lift and do some more thorough inspecting. [/QUOTE]
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