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<blockquote data-quote="foghorn918" data-source="post: 4264502" data-attributes="member: 11059"><p>A little long with pictures. I'll have to have more than one post to get all of the information in the thread:</p><p></p><p>1)</p><p></p><p>After seeing a post by [USER=45827]@Jason Freeland[/USER] about the Mantis X10 Elite training system and watching a product video that he posted a link to, I decided to order the <a href="https://mantisx.com/products/mantis-x10-elite" target="_blank">Mantis X10 Elite product</a> for myself. I also ordered another product, the <a href="https://www.dryfiremag.com/product/dryfiremag-g9x19-2/" target="_blank">DryFire magazine</a> to work with the Mantis X10 system. The Dryfire mag lets you repeatedly pull your guns trigger without have to rack the slide each time for a trigger press while you dry fire practice.</p><p></p><p>The Mantis X10 system is a sensor that attaches to the gun and records data for gun movement during target acquisition, trigger press, shot location at trigger break, recoil movement, and draw from holster stats. The sensor works via a phone app to collect all of the data. The sensor works for Dry Fire, Live Fire, and CO2 BB guns and Airsoft pistols.</p><p></p><p>So, after setting it up on my Glock 19 and using it with the DryFire Mag, I went through some of the dry fire drills that come with the app, while trying to focus on sight alignment and trigger press.</p><p></p><p>The sensor doesn’t know what you are aiming at, nor does it care. It’s just tracking movement of the gun through different stages of a single shot.</p><p></p><p><strong>DRYFIRE</strong></p><p></p><p>This pic shows a list of shots recorded to the app during one of my dryfire sessions. It scores each shot and records split times</p><p>[ATTACH=full]478446[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>This chart shows each shots location from the center of an x,y axis based upon the guns movement at the trigger break. Each red band represents a recorded shot.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]478447[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>Next pic shows an example of the guns movement during the process of firing a shot. The blue line shows the movement of the gun while you are settling the sights on your target, the yellow line shows the guns movement from the start of the trigger press until the shot breaks, the shot and its location is designated by the white X. A red line would be the movement of the gun after the shot breaks representing recoil (absent in my dry fire example). The app has an audible voice that announces the score of the shot and calls the shot by saying high right or low left, etc.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]478448[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>Now for some live fire with the Glock 19 at 7 yards using my USPSA loads of Xtreme 124 RN bullets, 4.2 gr of WST powder, OAL of 1.135, with mixed headstamp brass (For those who are curious)</p><p></p><p><strong>LIVE FIRE</strong></p><p></p><p>App showing first 5 shots of live fire recorded with scores and split times</p><p>[ATTACH=full]478449[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>Next, app chart showing shot placement in relationship from center of the sensor’s x,y axis. Notice app showing all shots are low and offering a diagnosis of the results.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]478450[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>Next my second 5 shots with scores and split times</p><p>[ATTACH=full]478451[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>Shot placement chart for those 5 shots, notice again app records all 5 shots either low, or low left. Remember each red band represents one shot location. Shot locations are stacked just showing the app recording a low hit, it does not show how low. If you had 20 shots and they were all low and even many of them through the same hole, you would still get a stacked chart growing out from the center showing each shot low, stacked low on each shot, if that make sense.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]478452[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>The sensor recorded all my shots low or low left for my first 10 shots.</p><p></p><p>Here is the target for those 10 shots, notice 2 of them are quite high, but the app didn’t record any of my shots as high.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]478453[/ATTACH]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="foghorn918, post: 4264502, member: 11059"] A little long with pictures. I'll have to have more than one post to get all of the information in the thread: 1) After seeing a post by [USER=45827]@Jason Freeland[/USER] about the Mantis X10 Elite training system and watching a product video that he posted a link to, I decided to order the [URL='https://mantisx.com/products/mantis-x10-elite']Mantis X10 Elite product[/URL] for myself. I also ordered another product, the [URL='https://www.dryfiremag.com/product/dryfiremag-g9x19-2/']DryFire magazine[/URL] to work with the Mantis X10 system. The Dryfire mag lets you repeatedly pull your guns trigger without have to rack the slide each time for a trigger press while you dry fire practice. The Mantis X10 system is a sensor that attaches to the gun and records data for gun movement during target acquisition, trigger press, shot location at trigger break, recoil movement, and draw from holster stats. The sensor works via a phone app to collect all of the data. The sensor works for Dry Fire, Live Fire, and CO2 BB guns and Airsoft pistols. So, after setting it up on my Glock 19 and using it with the DryFire Mag, I went through some of the dry fire drills that come with the app, while trying to focus on sight alignment and trigger press. The sensor doesn’t know what you are aiming at, nor does it care. It’s just tracking movement of the gun through different stages of a single shot. [B]DRYFIRE[/B] This pic shows a list of shots recorded to the app during one of my dryfire sessions. It scores each shot and records split times [ATTACH type="full"]478446[/ATTACH] This chart shows each shots location from the center of an x,y axis based upon the guns movement at the trigger break. Each red band represents a recorded shot. [ATTACH type="full"]478447[/ATTACH] Next pic shows an example of the guns movement during the process of firing a shot. The blue line shows the movement of the gun while you are settling the sights on your target, the yellow line shows the guns movement from the start of the trigger press until the shot breaks, the shot and its location is designated by the white X. A red line would be the movement of the gun after the shot breaks representing recoil (absent in my dry fire example). The app has an audible voice that announces the score of the shot and calls the shot by saying high right or low left, etc. [ATTACH type="full"]478448[/ATTACH] Now for some live fire with the Glock 19 at 7 yards using my USPSA loads of Xtreme 124 RN bullets, 4.2 gr of WST powder, OAL of 1.135, with mixed headstamp brass (For those who are curious) [B]LIVE FIRE[/B] App showing first 5 shots of live fire recorded with scores and split times [ATTACH type="full"]478449[/ATTACH] Next, app chart showing shot placement in relationship from center of the sensor’s x,y axis. Notice app showing all shots are low and offering a diagnosis of the results. [ATTACH type="full"]478450[/ATTACH] Next my second 5 shots with scores and split times [ATTACH type="full"]478451[/ATTACH] Shot placement chart for those 5 shots, notice again app records all 5 shots either low, or low left. Remember each red band represents one shot location. Shot locations are stacked just showing the app recording a low hit, it does not show how low. If you had 20 shots and they were all low and even many of them through the same hole, you would still get a stacked chart growing out from the center showing each shot low, stacked low on each shot, if that make sense. [ATTACH type="full"]478452[/ATTACH] The sensor recorded all my shots low or low left for my first 10 shots. Here is the target for those 10 shots, notice 2 of them are quite high, but the app didn’t record any of my shots as high. [ATTACH type="full"]478453[/ATTACH] [/QUOTE]
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