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<blockquote data-quote="avtomatkalashnikov47" data-source="post: 3553599" data-attributes="member: 41545"><p>i am surprised no one has mentioned</p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong>SB959, or HB2612.</strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">i dont like marijuana but i understand it helps some people medically. i know some people who did use it illegally before the decriminalization with the medical laws passing and from what i have seen it did help with these individuals suffering from cancer so i think it gave them some relief from chemo and the radiation.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">that being said, it is kind of strange. </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">we passed passing laws legalizing marijuana medically, </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">which is still federally illegal.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">but afaik we also did pass or *are in the process* of getting some laws that state something to the effect of just because you have a medical marijuana licence DOES NOT MEAN that you are disqualified from owning a firearm, meaning that - yeah you can basically have a medical card and firearms. </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">so again - its like we have 2 laws on the books then that are challenging the federal law. </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">FFLS have to report directly at a federal level so regardless of what the state laws say i highly doubt they are going to go against what the federal law states just because the state has laws that says its okay. i mean honestly , its literally in their title. <strong>FEDERAL </strong>firearms licensed dealer.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">seems like everyone that does partake in this says its a dont ask dont tell type of thing meaning you take the risk lying on the 4473 which is probably the dumbest thing you could do because your risking 10 years, a felony and never being allowed to own a gun at all just for lying on a form - or you just get all the guns you want before you get your medical card and your forced to have to make all future firearm purchases from a individual. </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">But - again its still federally illegal. i remember when california was the first state that started to loosen up on MJ and i remember hearing all the time about the feds coming in kicking in peoples houses even though they were legal under the state. F-that. </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">people that dabble in this are taking a risk as is, without even having guns in the mix.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">none of this really is of any concern to me at all though, i feel for others. they really need to clarify things. </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">but yeah, they are trying to have their cake and eat it too. from what i have seen you can get a MMJ card for just about anything, they give them out super easy.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">i think they personally did that on purpose, so they can bank on people that are all getting the cards, while still prosecuting people for it - taxing the dispensarys oh boy , its still a big cash cow for everybody and relatively victimless crimes like someone smoking a bit on the porch that gets apprehended for not having a piece of paper that is permission. </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">good old saying i heard in the firearms community time and time again is free men dont ask. but anyhow thats just my general discontent with the way the system as a whole works and makes crooked laws that only benefit them financially. </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">again, i really dont give a flying F about marijuana i like my guns way to much to ever have anything around to jeopardize that. </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">but - that said if given the all clear and opportunity id definitely like to grow one of those plants if its ever decriminalized and is fully legal just cause i honestly think its a pretty looking plant. that, and like i mentioned earlier, i had a dying family member who had cancer and i honestly think it had a part in saving their life.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="avtomatkalashnikov47, post: 3553599, member: 41545"] i am surprised no one has mentioned [SIZE=3][B]SB959, or HB2612.[/B] i dont like marijuana but i understand it helps some people medically. i know some people who did use it illegally before the decriminalization with the medical laws passing and from what i have seen it did help with these individuals suffering from cancer so i think it gave them some relief from chemo and the radiation. that being said, it is kind of strange. we passed passing laws legalizing marijuana medically, which is still federally illegal. but afaik we also did pass or *are in the process* of getting some laws that state something to the effect of just because you have a medical marijuana licence DOES NOT MEAN that you are disqualified from owning a firearm, meaning that - yeah you can basically have a medical card and firearms. so again - its like we have 2 laws on the books then that are challenging the federal law. FFLS have to report directly at a federal level so regardless of what the state laws say i highly doubt they are going to go against what the federal law states just because the state has laws that says its okay. i mean honestly , its literally in their title. [B]FEDERAL [/B]firearms licensed dealer. seems like everyone that does partake in this says its a dont ask dont tell type of thing meaning you take the risk lying on the 4473 which is probably the dumbest thing you could do because your risking 10 years, a felony and never being allowed to own a gun at all just for lying on a form - or you just get all the guns you want before you get your medical card and your forced to have to make all future firearm purchases from a individual. But - again its still federally illegal. i remember when california was the first state that started to loosen up on MJ and i remember hearing all the time about the feds coming in kicking in peoples houses even though they were legal under the state. F-that. people that dabble in this are taking a risk as is, without even having guns in the mix. none of this really is of any concern to me at all though, i feel for others. they really need to clarify things. but yeah, they are trying to have their cake and eat it too. from what i have seen you can get a MMJ card for just about anything, they give them out super easy. i think they personally did that on purpose, so they can bank on people that are all getting the cards, while still prosecuting people for it - taxing the dispensarys oh boy , its still a big cash cow for everybody and relatively victimless crimes like someone smoking a bit on the porch that gets apprehended for not having a piece of paper that is permission. good old saying i heard in the firearms community time and time again is free men dont ask. but anyhow thats just my general discontent with the way the system as a whole works and makes crooked laws that only benefit them financially. again, i really dont give a flying F about marijuana i like my guns way to much to ever have anything around to jeopardize that. but - that said if given the all clear and opportunity id definitely like to grow one of those plants if its ever decriminalized and is fully legal just cause i honestly think its a pretty looking plant. that, and like i mentioned earlier, i had a dying family member who had cancer and i honestly think it had a part in saving their life. [/SIZE] [/QUOTE]
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