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Message: <blockquote data-quote="nemesis" data-source="post: 2109927" data-attributes="member: 12082">I was referring to the notion that ministers are competent marriage counselers, when in fact, that's not necessarily the case.  Counseling is a mere afterthought in most ministerial curricula. However, even to be a licensed counselor, a Masters level just isn't much.  And what school of thought does said counselor espouse?  If said counselor received his Masters at a secular school, a school that promotes humanism, then that counselor is likely to do as much harm as good.  Like I said, "buyer beware."</blockquote>