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Message: <blockquote data-quote="JEVapa" data-source="post: 3896861" data-attributes="member: 41176">I use them along with Sierra Game Kings.  Prefer 175gr-185gr Berger VLD Hunting in 30 cal, but I'll use 178gr ELD-X in 30 cal if I can't get the Bergers.  I use 140gr SST, 130gr Berger Hybrid AR, and even 136gr Scenars in 6.5 in both a Man Bun and a 260.  They're all HP so they are legal and every deer I shot with one drops where it stands.  The only time I've had an animal run off was with a soft point. OTM aren't FMJ like people think and they don't burn through like an icepick the way FMJ might do or like people might think.  The tip deforms and the bullet will yaw and if they exit, the hole is the size of my fist.</blockquote>