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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ahall" data-source="post: 3884548" data-attributes="member: 49426">Sure folks ask a fortune on ebay for used ees, but the demand for small manual machines that weight 3000 lb and are 3 phase is limited.  The ward-leonard and tube-based drive systems of the EE also cause folks to shy away. Yes the 10ee cost as much as a house new, but they can be found for a couple of grand on the secondhand market, if you can beat the dealers to them.  Having run both the 10ee and several 9, 10, and 13 inch south bends, there is no comparison.  Go with the EE.  I spent about as much on my 10ee as I did on the SB heavy 10.The heavy 10 was sold long ago.  The EE is still here.It has about the same footprint as a cabinet mounted heavy 10.3 times the iron in the machine 10 times the chips in the pan at the end of the day.  The ee has hardened waysIts fast enough and strong enough to perform well with carbide insertsFor gunsmithing the EE has two issues when compared to a comprable sized southbend. The complexity of the electrical system. The length of the headstock.  The spindle is longer than most barrels, so you can't put a cathead on the back of the spindle and chamber in the headstock easily.  Thats one place a 13" SB shines.The upside for a southbend - its simple, pre WWI design.  Stupid simple electronics.  They are just slow, undepowered and not very rigid.  They were designed before carbide tooling and work better with very sharp tool steel cutters (or positive rake carbides).    On either, bed length is an issue for profiling barrels, but that's a great reason to buy another lathe.</blockquote>

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