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<blockquote data-quote="BikerHT" data-source="post: 2011205" data-attributes="member: 24483">First a little background, so folks know where I&#039;m coming from.&nbsp; I started as an electrical apprentice in 1983.&nbsp; I&#039;ve worked in residential, commercial and industrial.&nbsp; I have an Electrical Masters License from Texas and an Electrical Contractors License in Oklahoma. I had my own contracting company for 11 years.&nbsp; Most emphasis since 1999 has been heavy industrial, oil &amp; gas, hazardous classified areas, etc.&nbsp; I&#039;ve held positions of superintendent, project manager, inspector, etc.&nbsp; I was Operations Mgr for an electrical contractor in the OKC area for 2-1/2 yrs, (growing from 22 FT employees to over 150),&nbsp; leaving that position the end of Sept and returned to inspecting.&nbsp; I&#039;m currently one of about 70 inspectors on a refinery job near Chicago, with about 10,000 craft workers on the project.&nbsp; All craft workers are union - boilermakers, pipe fitters, welders, mill wrights, electricians, instrumentation tech, laborers, etc.&nbsp; This is the first project I have been on with union labor.&nbsp; I have never been for or against unions, I just have never been around them.&nbsp; I&#039;ve always kept an open mind about them.In my work history, this &#039;recession&#039; or what have you with the economy, has never impacted me.&nbsp; I&#039;ve had all the work and hours I could stand.&nbsp; I am making a BUNCH of money right now and am not complaining at all.&nbsp; I have noticed though, this is the slowest, laziest bunch of workers I have ever seen in my life.&nbsp; I&#039;ve worked mostly in Texas and Oklahoma, but also in Wyoming, Colorado, Nebraska and Pennsylvania.&nbsp; Nowhere I have ever been was like this.&nbsp; It is amazing how long it takes to get anything done.&nbsp; There is SO MUCH time wasted in a day - and night - I&#039;m working the night shift right now (that&#039;s why this post comes at this time).&nbsp; If this is what unions are about, I&#039;m glad I&#039;ve never been around them.&nbsp; Based on what I have seen during the 6 weeks I&#039;ve been here, a good crew from TX and/or OK would definitely work circles around these folks.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BikerHT, post: 2011205, member: 24483"] First a little background, so folks know where I'm coming from. I started as an electrical apprentice in 1983. I've worked in residential, commercial and industrial. I have an Electrical Masters License from Texas and an Electrical Contractors License in Oklahoma. I had my own contracting company for 11 years. Most emphasis since 1999 has been heavy industrial, oil & gas, hazardous classified areas, etc. I've held positions of superintendent, project manager, inspector, etc. I was Operations Mgr for an electrical contractor in the OKC area for 2-1/2 yrs, (growing from 22 FT employees to over 150), leaving that position the end of Sept and returned to inspecting. I'm currently one of about 70 inspectors on a refinery job near Chicago, with about 10,000 craft workers on the project. All craft workers are union - boilermakers, pipe fitters, welders, mill wrights, electricians, instrumentation tech, laborers, etc. This is the first project I have been on with union labor. I have never been for or against unions, I just have never been around them. I've always kept an open mind about them. In my work history, this 'recession' or what have you with the economy, has never impacted me. I've had all the work and hours I could stand. I am making a BUNCH of money right now and am not complaining at all. I have noticed though, this is the slowest, laziest bunch of workers I have ever seen in my life. I've worked mostly in Texas and Oklahoma, but also in Wyoming, Colorado, Nebraska and Pennsylvania. Nowhere I have ever been was like this. It is amazing how long it takes to get anything done. There is SO MUCH time wasted in a day - and night - I'm working the night shift right now (that's why this post comes at this time). If this is what unions are about, I'm glad I've never been around them. Based on what I have seen during the 6 weeks I've been here, a good crew from TX and/or OK would definitely work circles around these folks. [/QUOTE]

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