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Message: <blockquote data-quote="SMS" data-source="post: 2011809" data-attributes="member: 42">Ditto.  I never had much experience with unions until after I retired from the military.  Now, working at the FAA, we can join the union or not.  I can emphatically state that nearly every single lazy dirt bag I have encountered in OKC and at airports around the country were union.  They spend more time worrying about what the bargaining agreement says they have to do than worrying about getting the job done.  They can get the job done 8 times out of 10, but only if it falls within the parameters set out by the union.That being said, I should love unions because they are one of the biggest reasons I have a job.  That's right.  I dig ditches, run conduit, drive machines, tear buildings apart, work with high voltage, lift heavy stuff, and work 6 days a week.  All things that your FAA technicians in the field once did.  Back in the day, if one of their facilities was deteriorating, they put on gloves and got to work.  Now the bargaining agreement says they can't get that dirty so, viola!, SMS gets a job travelling around the country doing the work that healthy men and women used to do for themselves....and you guys foot the bill for my overtime, travel costs and per diem.Every time we go somewhere to do a job and interact with local utility folks, airport employees, crane operators etc...we always get a confused "you guys are FAA?" because they are so accustomed to the unionized field techs sitting on their ass watching people work.  That sure doesn't condemn all unions, and I know there are hard working folks in some unions, but it's not encouraging and it doesn't get me all fired up to join one.</blockquote>

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