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Michigan pushes right-to-work measure(24th state in the nation to adopt R-T-W)
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<blockquote data-quote="ez bake" data-source="post: 2014859" data-attributes="member: 229"><p>My point is that neither side is at all close to reality. Unions are not great freedom fighters, nor are they legalized mafias.</p><p></p><p>They are organizations that were originally setup to protect rights (like the NRA, Kniferights.org, etc.) and they are voluntary.</p><p></p><p>Are some unions abused (i.e. nearly run like mafias)? I don't know but like any organization (i.e. our US government, our State government, the school-system, the church, corporations, etc.) I'm sure there is plenty of abuse.</p><p></p><p>If either side of the media is telling me that unions are mafias or super-hero organization, I'm inclined to say no they aren't. </p><p></p><p>I'm just as concerned with Unions forcing higher-cost labor with lower-quality (and muscling in on non-union businesses) as I am concerned with corporations that abuse their people (after abusing the system of government handouts/regulations to get unfair advantage over their competition so the can monopolize markets and treat people however they want).</p><p></p><p>Here's the thing though - lots of folks on this board think Right to Work is great for civil liberties (and it is possible that it would be in a truly free market, but nobody in their right mind would think that we in the US are truly in an unfettered free market), and those same folks think Unions are evil - but when pressed, they jump all over the place as to why.</p><p></p><p>So here's a good question - why are Unions bad? Lay it out plainly once and for all and then don't start straw-manning or dodging with stick-and-move tactics as to why they're somehow better than big-businesses that got help from Uncle Sam (by way of money and unfair regulations against small private-owned businesses).</p><p></p><p>I'm betting you can't differentiate between the two because they're exactly the same. Once again, the left and right are arguing over two different evils that are exactly the same (sound familiar?).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ez bake, post: 2014859, member: 229"] My point is that neither side is at all close to reality. Unions are not great freedom fighters, nor are they legalized mafias. They are organizations that were originally setup to protect rights (like the NRA, Kniferights.org, etc.) and they are voluntary. Are some unions abused (i.e. nearly run like mafias)? I don't know but like any organization (i.e. our US government, our State government, the school-system, the church, corporations, etc.) I'm sure there is plenty of abuse. If either side of the media is telling me that unions are mafias or super-hero organization, I'm inclined to say no they aren't. I'm just as concerned with Unions forcing higher-cost labor with lower-quality (and muscling in on non-union businesses) as I am concerned with corporations that abuse their people (after abusing the system of government handouts/regulations to get unfair advantage over their competition so the can monopolize markets and treat people however they want). Here's the thing though - lots of folks on this board think Right to Work is great for civil liberties (and it is possible that it would be in a truly free market, but nobody in their right mind would think that we in the US are truly in an unfettered free market), and those same folks think Unions are evil - but when pressed, they jump all over the place as to why. So here's a good question - why are Unions bad? Lay it out plainly once and for all and then don't start straw-manning or dodging with stick-and-move tactics as to why they're somehow better than big-businesses that got help from Uncle Sam (by way of money and unfair regulations against small private-owned businesses). I'm betting you can't differentiate between the two because they're exactly the same. Once again, the left and right are arguing over two different evils that are exactly the same (sound familiar?). [/QUOTE]
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