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Message: <blockquote data-quote="farmerbyron" data-source="post: 2015737" data-attributes="member: 4953">So I take it you are pro RTW?  That is what is so ridiculous about the rage expressed by these union members.  Their union can continue on, they just can't force people to give money to an organization that may not represent their beliefs.  They should have that right don't you think?Fact of the matter is that back during the industrial revolution, unions were very important in improving workers lives.  They helped put in place many standards of safety and hour restrictions.  But much of what they fought for has become codified in law and the unions have become a reason that workers see their jobs sent overseas.  Like it or not, we live in a global economy and that will not be changing anytime soon. Speaking of straw men, no one is saying that workers should be abused and unions banned.  Just that workers ought to have a choice in whether they want to join a union or not. Most guys have personal experiences about unions that are either positive or negative.  My only real exposure to a union is an aunt that works for a public employees union and she is always bragging about how little she has to do, the margaritas she gets to drink during a 2-3 hour lunch, and the expense account that covers it all.  She is a secretary and making 50k for doing nearly nothing.  Stories like these and some that dennis has shared show why so many people have such disdain for unions.  You're right it's not the union, per se, but the people in it.  Which when you break it down is what a union really is, people.  Not all union members are free loading thugs but many of them are and that is what garners the reputation of "unions".  It is their most defining characteristic in this century.</blockquote>

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