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<blockquote data-quote="farmerbyron" data-source="post: 2645058" data-attributes="member: 4953">If you don&#039;t believe we have a place to store radioactive waste, I suggest you take a drive out through New Mexico, Arizona, and Nevada.&nbsp; Nuclear waste is not an unmanageable problem.&nbsp; I&#039;m with you on alternative sources of energy, they just aren&#039;t viable right now and we aren&#039;t going to live like the 18th century because of some warming that may or may not be the result of humans intervention.&nbsp; Cap and trade is the solution brought by the IPCC to combat climate change.&nbsp; Cap and trade does nothing but transfer wealth.&nbsp; It has zero impact on climate in any way.&nbsp; This is one of the reasons so many of us are suspicious of the &quot;climatologists&quot;.You do realize that species die off everyday from natural factors right?&nbsp; Extinctions have occurred throughout time.&nbsp; Long before humans had any role.&nbsp; It&#039;s a fundamental part of evolution.&nbsp; &nbsp; No doubt we may have hastened the demise of some but have we not also saved a few species?Kyle, we had a pretty protracted debate a couple weeks ago that I don&#039;t believe you participated.&nbsp; I would suggest skimming through it and you will see much of the same arguments and the use of scientific journal sources on both sides.[video]https://www.okshooters.com/showthread.php?204823-Ice-Observations-and-Climate-Models&amp;highlight=ice+observations[/video]</blockquote>

[QUOTE="farmerbyron, post: 2645058, member: 4953"] If you don't believe we have a place to store radioactive waste, I suggest you take a drive out through New Mexico, Arizona, and Nevada. Nuclear waste is not an unmanageable problem. I'm with you on alternative sources of energy, they just aren't viable right now and we aren't going to live like the 18th century because of some warming that may or may not be the result of humans intervention. Cap and trade is the solution brought by the IPCC to combat climate change. Cap and trade does nothing but transfer wealth. It has zero impact on climate in any way. This is one of the reasons so many of us are suspicious of the "climatologists". You do realize that species die off everyday from natural factors right? Extinctions have occurred throughout time. Long before humans had any role. It's a fundamental part of evolution. No doubt we may have hastened the demise of some but have we not also saved a few species? Kyle, we had a pretty protracted debate a couple weeks ago that I don't believe you participated. I would suggest skimming through it and you will see much of the same arguments and the use of scientific journal sources on both sides. [video]https://www.okshooters.com/showthread.php?204823-Ice-Observations-and-Climate-Models&highlight=ice+observations[/video] [/QUOTE]

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