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<blockquote data-quote="RidgeHunter" data-source="post: 1353372" data-attributes="member: 4319">No, my argument is stricter drug laws have done nothing to curb illegal dug use, sales or addiction/usage rates since the W.O.D was ramped up in the 1970&#039;s....at the same time more than quadrupling our incarceration rate with drug offenders (which doesn&#039;t jive with you &quot;they fear stricter punishment&quot; argument.)And it&#039;s not really an argument, it&#039;s just repeating hard facts. I also argue that their is no truth to the &quot;drug use would skyrocket&quot; argument, when other prosperous countries with less strict drug laws don&#039;t have that problem. A claim we would have radically different results doesn&#039;t have much basis. Also there has been no real change for the better since the drug war was escalated, showing that getting stricter does not have dramatic effects on drug use like you claim.A claim that 33-50% of a generation is waiting for a legal green light to OD is just plain ridiculous.I&#039;m not feeling sorry for government tit-suckers, I&#039;m feeling sorry we have so many people that think Drug Prohibition is saving the world one possession charge at a time.If your claims were true, shouldn&#039;t our incarceration rate have dropped (or at the very least, not more than quadrupled) since we &quot;got tough on drugs&quot;? Shouldn&#039;t there be significantly less drugs available?Should drug use rates not have dropped dramatically since the 1970&#039;s?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="RidgeHunter, post: 1353372, member: 4319"] No, my argument is stricter drug laws have done nothing to curb illegal dug use, sales or addiction/usage rates since the W.O.D was ramped up in the 1970's....at the same time more than quadrupling our incarceration rate with drug offenders (which doesn't jive with you "they fear stricter punishment" argument.) And it's not really an argument, it's just repeating hard facts. I also argue that their is no truth to the "drug use would skyrocket" argument, when other prosperous countries with less strict drug laws don't have that problem. A claim we would have radically different results doesn't have much basis. Also there has been no real change for the better since the drug war was escalated, showing that getting stricter does not have dramatic effects on drug use like you claim. A claim that 33-50% of a generation is waiting for a legal green light to OD is just plain ridiculous. I'm not feeling sorry for government tit-suckers, I'm feeling sorry we have so many people that think Drug Prohibition is saving the world one possession charge at a time. If your claims were true, shouldn't our incarceration rate have dropped (or at the very least, not more than quadrupled) since we "got tough on drugs"? Shouldn't there be significantly less drugs available? Should drug use rates not have dropped dramatically since the 1970's? [/QUOTE]

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