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<blockquote data-quote="BadgeBunny" data-source="post: 2520674" data-attributes="member: 1242"><p>Now ... keep in mind that a lot of the links I am posting are comments from other FD/DH food suppliers about Wise products. That said, the problems individuals (myself included) have run into with Wise products (poorly packaged product, product being stale well before the expiration date, higher filler, salt and sugar content than other comparably priced products, etc.) are WELL documented on self-preparedness boards all over the internet ... </p><p></p><p>It is possible to package your own bulk goods for long term storage (years and years) with a minimum of equipment and expense ... all it takes is paying attention to what you are doing and starting with quality products. That said, I'm old and lazy ... I don't mind paying a little bit extra to have everything already put up in 10# cans ... not so much the big buckets anymore because I have noticed that I'm not quite as strong as I used to be ... <img src="/images/smilies/frown.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" data-shortname=":(" /></p><p></p><p>Anyway ... I digress ... as usual ... <img src="/images/smilies/tongue.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":P" title="Stick Out Tongue :P" data-shortname=":P" /></p><p></p><p>Here's some links to get you started ...</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.foodstoragereviewer.com/mountain-house-rips-wise-company-over-oxygen-levels/" target="_blank">http://www.foodstoragereviewer.com/mountain-house-rips-wise-company-over-oxygen-levels/</a></p><p></p><p><a href="http://topfoodstoragereviews.com/wise-food-storage-review" target="_blank">http://topfoodstoragereviews.com/wise-food-storage-review</a></p><p></p><p>(Yes, I know the first two are from the same .com ...)</p><p></p><p><a href="http://learntoprepare.com/2012/07/fraud-exposed-regarding-preparedness-food-company-wise-foods-by-oregon-freeze-dry/" target="_blank">http://learntoprepare.com/2012/07/fraud-exposed-regarding-preparedness-food-company-wise-foods-by-oregon-freeze-dry/</a></p><p></p><p><a href="http://survivalacres.com/shop/content/14-why-not-wise-foods" target="_blank">http://survivalacres.com/shop/content/14-why-not-wise-foods</a></p><p></p><p>Anyway, those 4 links are more than enough to get you started. </p><p></p><p>Just so you won't think I'm simply cutting and pasting articles without having actually used Wise products here are the problems I personally ran into:</p><p></p><p>1. Mylar bags that were not sealed properly, leaking product (and obviously, letting oxygen in).</p><p>2. In the instant oatmeal and maple syrup flavored pouch (bleech ... but GC's favorite) there was not enough oatmeal to make two 1/2 cup-servings, after sifting out the sugar, cornstarch and powdered maple flavoring even though the pouch stated it had 4 servings in it. There was, literally, a scant 2/3rds cup of oatmeal in the package ... Not 2 cups of oatmeal ... </p><p></p><p>I have taken the packages of instant oatmeal that I bought from Wise, opened them all up and added another 1 to 1 1/2 cups of regular Quaker Oats instant oatmeal to each of them and just fed GC his breakfasts from a big old jar of the stuff I keep under the counter. There is no way the oatmeal packets I bought from Wise would feed one person, especially not a person doing hard, physical labor, much less 4 people ... </p><p></p><p>Same thing with their mac and cheese packets ... Heavy on the cheese powder, light on the macaroni ... It is a running joke around here that I used up all our Wise stuff when I was too lazy to cook from scratch ... All I had to do was crack open a package, add 2 cups of macaroni, rice, or whatever carb was supposed to be the "meal" on the label and cook ...</p><p></p><p>One thing is for damned sure ... DON'T put any more salt or sugar in whatever you are making ... Wise sent you enough for 4 servings and then some ... </p><p></p><p>3. I did have some packets that we bought when Red Dawn was still around that were stale tasting when reconstituted, even though the expiration date on the packaging said it was still good ... like in several years away from the expiration date. All I can tell you is the chickens didn't seem to mind ...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BadgeBunny, post: 2520674, member: 1242"] Now ... keep in mind that a lot of the links I am posting are comments from other FD/DH food suppliers about Wise products. That said, the problems individuals (myself included) have run into with Wise products (poorly packaged product, product being stale well before the expiration date, higher filler, salt and sugar content than other comparably priced products, etc.) are WELL documented on self-preparedness boards all over the internet ... It is possible to package your own bulk goods for long term storage (years and years) with a minimum of equipment and expense ... all it takes is paying attention to what you are doing and starting with quality products. That said, I'm old and lazy ... I don't mind paying a little bit extra to have everything already put up in 10# cans ... not so much the big buckets anymore because I have noticed that I'm not quite as strong as I used to be ... :( Anyway ... I digress ... as usual ... :P Here's some links to get you started ... [URL="http://www.foodstoragereviewer.com/mountain-house-rips-wise-company-over-oxygen-levels/"]http://www.foodstoragereviewer.com/mountain-house-rips-wise-company-over-oxygen-levels/[/URL] [URL="http://topfoodstoragereviews.com/wise-food-storage-review"]http://topfoodstoragereviews.com/wise-food-storage-review[/URL] (Yes, I know the first two are from the same .com ...) [URL="http://learntoprepare.com/2012/07/fraud-exposed-regarding-preparedness-food-company-wise-foods-by-oregon-freeze-dry/"]http://learntoprepare.com/2012/07/fraud-exposed-regarding-preparedness-food-company-wise-foods-by-oregon-freeze-dry/[/URL] [URL="http://survivalacres.com/shop/content/14-why-not-wise-foods"]http://survivalacres.com/shop/content/14-why-not-wise-foods[/URL] Anyway, those 4 links are more than enough to get you started. Just so you won't think I'm simply cutting and pasting articles without having actually used Wise products here are the problems I personally ran into: 1. Mylar bags that were not sealed properly, leaking product (and obviously, letting oxygen in). 2. In the instant oatmeal and maple syrup flavored pouch (bleech ... but GC's favorite) there was not enough oatmeal to make two 1/2 cup-servings, after sifting out the sugar, cornstarch and powdered maple flavoring even though the pouch stated it had 4 servings in it. There was, literally, a scant 2/3rds cup of oatmeal in the package ... Not 2 cups of oatmeal ... I have taken the packages of instant oatmeal that I bought from Wise, opened them all up and added another 1 to 1 1/2 cups of regular Quaker Oats instant oatmeal to each of them and just fed GC his breakfasts from a big old jar of the stuff I keep under the counter. There is no way the oatmeal packets I bought from Wise would feed one person, especially not a person doing hard, physical labor, much less 4 people ... Same thing with their mac and cheese packets ... Heavy on the cheese powder, light on the macaroni ... It is a running joke around here that I used up all our Wise stuff when I was too lazy to cook from scratch ... All I had to do was crack open a package, add 2 cups of macaroni, rice, or whatever carb was supposed to be the "meal" on the label and cook ... One thing is for damned sure ... DON'T put any more salt or sugar in whatever you are making ... Wise sent you enough for 4 servings and then some ... 3. I did have some packets that we bought when Red Dawn was still around that were stale tasting when reconstituted, even though the expiration date on the packaging said it was still good ... like in several years away from the expiration date. All I can tell you is the chickens didn't seem to mind ... [/QUOTE]
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