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<blockquote data-quote="vicious" data-source="post: 2037437" data-attributes="member: 3937"><p>I think this is false logic. I know that the gun shops I go to sell more than just AR's and their associated parts, and have not gone to an AR specific shop. They are still selling at reasonable prices, and I don't think they will go under because of people like me who will still shop there.</p><p></p><p>The idea that they have to do a 10x markup on a product you've already got in stock to keep from going out of business is ridiculous. I've been involved in retail buying and selling, and you don't buy anything that you HAVE to mark up 10 times to be able to stay in business, otherwise you'll find yourself out of business. I can also see a price increase on new inventory, but I've personally never something priced based on a perceived notion that we'd have to pay more for new stock. If new stock cost more, then it would be sold for more. </p><p></p><p>With regard to $40 pmags, I disagree here too. I may be wrong, but it seems as though they aren't going up quite that much. I can still backorder from sites in the sub $20 range, so maybe go up to $25 for on hand convenience, but again I think $40 is a bit much. This is just me. Most of these guys paid less than $15 retail, and are trying to double that. It just seems unethical, so I won't pay it. </p><p></p><p>Again, this is all just my opinion and way of thinking. To each their own. I speak with my cash. I either buy or I don't. I also give recommendations to friends when they ask. There are shops who will lose long term true business because they are taking advantage of the situation, and I think that will hurt much more than people who don't make an exorbitant amount today. After all, one way or another this will end (ban or not) and at that point true gun people will still be buying, and those who are freaking out won't. Who do you want shopping with you? </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Just like a hedge fund. We saw them go down due to their speculation and greed. This may or may not happen with these people, but I'm sure some people will get bitten. </p><p></p><p>In the end I can see a true 10-20% permanent increase if the ban doesn't pass. If it does, well these things will stay expensive for the run. At that a MSRP of $19.99 will become a $23 item. A $110.00 lower will eventually cost about $125. It's just my own speculation, but I've seen runs on other items, and this has pretty much held true. </p><p></p><p>I promote relaxing, and hopefully I'm on the right side. If I end up spending way more post ban because it is passed and I need or want something, that's on me. I'll still shop at the small shops I deal with today, and I won't (out of spite) deal with those I believe are gouging today.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="vicious, post: 2037437, member: 3937"] I think this is false logic. I know that the gun shops I go to sell more than just AR's and their associated parts, and have not gone to an AR specific shop. They are still selling at reasonable prices, and I don't think they will go under because of people like me who will still shop there. The idea that they have to do a 10x markup on a product you've already got in stock to keep from going out of business is ridiculous. I've been involved in retail buying and selling, and you don't buy anything that you HAVE to mark up 10 times to be able to stay in business, otherwise you'll find yourself out of business. I can also see a price increase on new inventory, but I've personally never something priced based on a perceived notion that we'd have to pay more for new stock. If new stock cost more, then it would be sold for more. With regard to $40 pmags, I disagree here too. I may be wrong, but it seems as though they aren't going up quite that much. I can still backorder from sites in the sub $20 range, so maybe go up to $25 for on hand convenience, but again I think $40 is a bit much. This is just me. Most of these guys paid less than $15 retail, and are trying to double that. It just seems unethical, so I won't pay it. Again, this is all just my opinion and way of thinking. To each their own. I speak with my cash. I either buy or I don't. I also give recommendations to friends when they ask. There are shops who will lose long term true business because they are taking advantage of the situation, and I think that will hurt much more than people who don't make an exorbitant amount today. After all, one way or another this will end (ban or not) and at that point true gun people will still be buying, and those who are freaking out won't. Who do you want shopping with you? Just like a hedge fund. We saw them go down due to their speculation and greed. This may or may not happen with these people, but I'm sure some people will get bitten. In the end I can see a true 10-20% permanent increase if the ban doesn't pass. If it does, well these things will stay expensive for the run. At that a MSRP of $19.99 will become a $23 item. A $110.00 lower will eventually cost about $125. It's just my own speculation, but I've seen runs on other items, and this has pretty much held true. I promote relaxing, and hopefully I'm on the right side. If I end up spending way more post ban because it is passed and I need or want something, that's on me. I'll still shop at the small shops I deal with today, and I won't (out of spite) deal with those I believe are gouging today. [/QUOTE]
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