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<blockquote data-quote="nofearfactor" data-source="post: 2113492" data-attributes="member: 1535"><p>My brothers son sounds just like this dude. He is a phenomenal young man, hard worker, intelligent, good looking, but look out when he's partying. Drinking is our fathers side of the family curse brought with them from the UK 1880s. Dont know if its the Scottish or the Irish in us or what, but the men on my dads side of the family are either teetotalers or 'working' alcoholics. You know, the kind who if theyre working or running a business then they must be good to go so drink on. My mother is well off and has always been the family enabler and Ive heard that she has been getting this kid out of trouble for some years now. It is her money, but Ive told her before when she was helping someone else that she really wasnt helping someone when she helped them get out of their troubles over and over with her money or influence, contacts, etc. </p><p></p><p>Being a musician and an artist I know some creative talented people who make great art but they also sound just like this guy. I have alot of friends who have gotten in trouble over the years and they either took care of it themselves like a man should and got help and turned things around or they didnt and ended up on the streets. Some friends have been thru the prison system, federal state or county, then came out and went to work on themselves and some were very successful afterwards and some just repeated the cycle a few more times before it worked. Not a lie when they say sometimes you have to hit bottom to really want to change sometimes but then maybe a person could decide its time to change early if they only had themselves to take care of themselves. Meaning, if his source of help cut him off he would have to do for hisself. </p><p></p><p>I would help store his car and belongings, if any, in storage. Go to court with him when I could. Then if he gets some jail time go and visit. And then when they get out offer rides and an ear to listen but not provide any money or my place to stay. Be there, but on the sideline. He has to do the work hisself.</p><p></p><p>I remember seeing a bit on one of those TV entertainment news shows about a guy in Texas who was homeless and a drunk and his sister is the singer Madonna. He used to work for her at one time then he got all fcked up and in trouble a bunch of times and she finally got fed up with him and cut him from her life and they havent spoke now in years. Sad.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="nofearfactor, post: 2113492, member: 1535"] My brothers son sounds just like this dude. He is a phenomenal young man, hard worker, intelligent, good looking, but look out when he's partying. Drinking is our fathers side of the family curse brought with them from the UK 1880s. Dont know if its the Scottish or the Irish in us or what, but the men on my dads side of the family are either teetotalers or 'working' alcoholics. You know, the kind who if theyre working or running a business then they must be good to go so drink on. My mother is well off and has always been the family enabler and Ive heard that she has been getting this kid out of trouble for some years now. It is her money, but Ive told her before when she was helping someone else that she really wasnt helping someone when she helped them get out of their troubles over and over with her money or influence, contacts, etc. Being a musician and an artist I know some creative talented people who make great art but they also sound just like this guy. I have alot of friends who have gotten in trouble over the years and they either took care of it themselves like a man should and got help and turned things around or they didnt and ended up on the streets. Some friends have been thru the prison system, federal state or county, then came out and went to work on themselves and some were very successful afterwards and some just repeated the cycle a few more times before it worked. Not a lie when they say sometimes you have to hit bottom to really want to change sometimes but then maybe a person could decide its time to change early if they only had themselves to take care of themselves. Meaning, if his source of help cut him off he would have to do for hisself. I would help store his car and belongings, if any, in storage. Go to court with him when I could. Then if he gets some jail time go and visit. And then when they get out offer rides and an ear to listen but not provide any money or my place to stay. Be there, but on the sideline. He has to do the work hisself. I remember seeing a bit on one of those TV entertainment news shows about a guy in Texas who was homeless and a drunk and his sister is the singer Madonna. He used to work for her at one time then he got all fcked up and in trouble a bunch of times and she finally got fed up with him and cut him from her life and they havent spoke now in years. Sad. [/QUOTE]
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