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<blockquote data-quote="zghorner" data-source="post: 3238536" data-attributes="member: 35089"><p>I offered, he wont do it. </p><p></p><p>A little backstory to explain why his motive is half revenge and half him being an idiot.</p><p></p><p>He use to drive across my front yard to get to his house. The road was in horrible shape...like a 2 ft deep pond in the center of it at one point you had to get in the ditches to make it through on top of all the usual pot holes and washouts etc...</p><p></p><p>At this point we were on good terms, i asked him if he wanted to go in and fix the road and he said: yea man, this road is tearing up my vehicles we need to do something and im from Davis, OK where all the gravel comes from let me call around to get some prices..."</p><p></p><p>The next day he comes at me with the prices and complained that they were too high i believe at $450 a semi, belly dump load of 2.5" crush...the next day i found it for $400 a load so i started to work on the road. I hired 2 other people, borrowed a big landscape tractor (which i had to pay back multiple favors costing me hundreds of dollars), cut the trees and brush out of the old ditches, cut new ditches, crowned the road then put 7 loads of gravel down and spread it. All the while he seen us working even came by to give a thumbs up a few times but couldnt help because "its his wife's birthday and he has to take her out"...he is around 30-35 years old and very able bodied. So that pissed me off.</p><p></p><p>I talked to him right after it was done and told him it isnt my responsibility to build everyone i nice new road and i expect him and the other neighbor to contribute (which the other neighbor did). he starts giving me BS about how money is tight blah blah blah...he is some kind of iron worker supervisor and his wife is a registered nurse but okay man thats cool, didnt want to help with the work and now money is tight...thats cool.</p><p></p><p>So i let it go, hoping he would do the right thing and try to talk to me about it instead he basically cowered from ever seeing me...months go by and I decided "today is the day" and catch him when he is getting home from work and ask to get squared up on the road...i said "i am out $2,800 in gravel alone, all im asking you for is $700. That is split 4 ways, the 3 neighbors and the boat and RV storage (which i own also). He says: "whoa whoa whoa man that was you that did thats not me, i dont think i should have to pay for it". ME: you use the entire road twice a day every day but you dont think you should contribute to upkeep? Fine then, i will fence off your entrance through my front yard, and you can use that sandy piece of sh!t driveway at the beginning of the street that you are supposed to be using anyway". Him: Whoa man come on, let me see what i can do with coming up with some money and ill talk to you".</p><p></p><p>So he has had his own driveway this whole time that is at the beginning of the street but it is pure sand on a hill and washes out badly, and has been using my property to access his house...with no legal easement provided.</p><p></p><p>So money is tight right, $700 is just too much to ask for a new nice road when a contractor quoted me at $15,000 to fix it before i decided to do it myself, but im out of line asking $700 according to him right...two weeks later he buys a brand new cummins diesel ram 4x4...Pissed me off, slap across the face, starting to hate this guy a bunch now...but i let that go. At this point I was done with the guy, which takes a lot for me to do especially with next door neighbor forgiveness to maintain the peace lol.</p><p></p><p>So nothing happens for about 2 months, my dogs got out and i was driving looking for them and he was on the road so i stopped to ask if he had seen them. He says: "No, and my dogs have been missing for over a month". ME: that sucks man have you talked to that rancher with horses on the other street? (the one who told him he was going to kill his dogs if they come run his horses again...). He says: "ive talked to everyone but you...i was going to come bring you that $700 but then my dogs came up missing after i bought this truck". So i went off basically how i would never do that, which i didnt or wouldnt as i like dogs better than people. He wasnt buying what i was saying so i just left, furious at his level of chicken-sh!ttery. </p><p></p><p>2 days later i told him i was going to fence him off</p><p></p><p>about a week after that i fenced him off and he has had to start using his driveway...that washes out terribly each time it rains...he also bought a new john deere 4x4 tractor about a month after that to maintain his driveway...but $700 was way out of line...</p><p></p><p>Whew that's a lot to type damn lol.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="zghorner, post: 3238536, member: 35089"] I offered, he wont do it. A little backstory to explain why his motive is half revenge and half him being an idiot. He use to drive across my front yard to get to his house. The road was in horrible shape...like a 2 ft deep pond in the center of it at one point you had to get in the ditches to make it through on top of all the usual pot holes and washouts etc... At this point we were on good terms, i asked him if he wanted to go in and fix the road and he said: yea man, this road is tearing up my vehicles we need to do something and im from Davis, OK where all the gravel comes from let me call around to get some prices..." The next day he comes at me with the prices and complained that they were too high i believe at $450 a semi, belly dump load of 2.5" crush...the next day i found it for $400 a load so i started to work on the road. I hired 2 other people, borrowed a big landscape tractor (which i had to pay back multiple favors costing me hundreds of dollars), cut the trees and brush out of the old ditches, cut new ditches, crowned the road then put 7 loads of gravel down and spread it. All the while he seen us working even came by to give a thumbs up a few times but couldnt help because "its his wife's birthday and he has to take her out"...he is around 30-35 years old and very able bodied. So that pissed me off. I talked to him right after it was done and told him it isnt my responsibility to build everyone i nice new road and i expect him and the other neighbor to contribute (which the other neighbor did). he starts giving me BS about how money is tight blah blah blah...he is some kind of iron worker supervisor and his wife is a registered nurse but okay man thats cool, didnt want to help with the work and now money is tight...thats cool. So i let it go, hoping he would do the right thing and try to talk to me about it instead he basically cowered from ever seeing me...months go by and I decided "today is the day" and catch him when he is getting home from work and ask to get squared up on the road...i said "i am out $2,800 in gravel alone, all im asking you for is $700. That is split 4 ways, the 3 neighbors and the boat and RV storage (which i own also). He says: "whoa whoa whoa man that was you that did thats not me, i dont think i should have to pay for it". ME: you use the entire road twice a day every day but you dont think you should contribute to upkeep? Fine then, i will fence off your entrance through my front yard, and you can use that sandy piece of sh!t driveway at the beginning of the street that you are supposed to be using anyway". Him: Whoa man come on, let me see what i can do with coming up with some money and ill talk to you". So he has had his own driveway this whole time that is at the beginning of the street but it is pure sand on a hill and washes out badly, and has been using my property to access his house...with no legal easement provided. So money is tight right, $700 is just too much to ask for a new nice road when a contractor quoted me at $15,000 to fix it before i decided to do it myself, but im out of line asking $700 according to him right...two weeks later he buys a brand new cummins diesel ram 4x4...Pissed me off, slap across the face, starting to hate this guy a bunch now...but i let that go. At this point I was done with the guy, which takes a lot for me to do especially with next door neighbor forgiveness to maintain the peace lol. So nothing happens for about 2 months, my dogs got out and i was driving looking for them and he was on the road so i stopped to ask if he had seen them. He says: "No, and my dogs have been missing for over a month". ME: that sucks man have you talked to that rancher with horses on the other street? (the one who told him he was going to kill his dogs if they come run his horses again...). He says: "ive talked to everyone but you...i was going to come bring you that $700 but then my dogs came up missing after i bought this truck". So i went off basically how i would never do that, which i didnt or wouldnt as i like dogs better than people. He wasnt buying what i was saying so i just left, furious at his level of chicken-sh!ttery. 2 days later i told him i was going to fence him off about a week after that i fenced him off and he has had to start using his driveway...that washes out terribly each time it rains...he also bought a new john deere 4x4 tractor about a month after that to maintain his driveway...but $700 was way out of line... Whew that's a lot to type damn lol. [/QUOTE]
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