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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cowbaby" data-source="post: 3509219" data-attributes="member: 46875">I too used to have a pre-64 model 70 in 270 . Just a field grade but I loved that gun. The action and safety was almost like it had been diamond lapped it was so smooth. I still shoot a 70 classic in a newer model and its almost as nice and shoots just slightly better than the old one did due to a mag caliber.I love that old .270 as a caliber. I never used it extreme long range but I never felt under-gunned in the least carrying one as they were always a stepper. I am not an extreme long range guy either. I usually try to limit myself to about 400-450yds as that is about the limit of my old eyes in a hunting tapered barrel. I just simply refuse to carry a 29lb bull barreled pig around mountain hunting.At for the long actions. I never understood the infatuation with a short action in a bolt rifle myself. I can never say I ever noticed that extra half inch when rackin another one in. If given a choice I would grab that old Jack O'Conner special every time than these newer fly by night may be around tommorrow, maybe not calibers. I can be in BFE Idaho and still find a box of that in a pinch. Availability, That can sometimes make a world of difference on one of those costly hunts to somewhere remote.</blockquote>