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<blockquote data-quote="copertop80" data-source="post: 1511881" data-attributes="member: 1538"><p>First and foremost the target market for this weapon is L.E. agencies, such as the state dpt. The secret service, the CIA and the majority of the other alphabet agencies, so don’t get on here and tell me I can’t do X, Y, or Z because ATF regs. I’ll burn those bridges when I get to them, that being said, I do want to have a civilian version as well </p><p></p><p>Description:</p><p></p><p>My proposal is for a full length barrel rifle or shotgun that is completely concealable. The current NON-WORKING model is a rifle with an overall length of about 30” with a 20” barrel. The weapon can be concealed underneath a suit jacket (thus the targeted market base) this weapon will be chambered in a rifle caliber probably .556 ( God help us all, I’d really like something with a little more knock down but it needs to fit the NATO regs as to grab the widest market base. So what are you gonna do). Magazine fed and mounted optics/aiming assistances accessible this design (L.E. version) would be select fire; safe, 1, 3, and F.A. </p><p> This rifle design is one in which SUSTAINED, ACCURATE fire can be delivered one handed, while the other hand guides a VIP, weather push or pull, and precision fire can be delivered two handed. The firing mechanism is unlike anything on the mkt. (along the same line of thinking as the KRISS but not a copy of the KRISS either)</p><p></p><p>Concealed underneath a suit jacket, while not being visible, this weapon is slightly quicker to deploy than a holstered handgun, delivering more accurate fire than a handgun, with, I think, would deliver more velocity within each round due to the longer barrel, than current competitors on the mkt. to date, (mp5, sp89, ANY M4, mp7, p90, Uzi ect. ect. ect.) Completely mobile for getting in, out, and around vehicles without altering normal movements. Because of the configuration of this design this would be ideal for C.Q.B. encounters, room to room fighting, any and all urban encounters, or ambush busting.</p><p></p><p>I know I have been extremely vague but to protect my intellectual properties I must. Toward the end of the month of May I hope to be able to sit down with any and all interested parties and disclose everything that everyone wants to know. Provided N.D.A. are signed and notarized (a business plan will be part of this presentation).</p><p></p><p>To those who have already been in contact with me, your already on the list to be notified when the "meeting" is to take place, most likely on a Saturday afternoon. If you have not but want to be a part shoot me a pm with your contact info, phone # and or an email, and I'll get you on the list to be notified too.</p><p></p><p>I dont have anything to hide, I don't have the heart to screw anyone over. That is not what this is about, the intrests of my previous post is what spawned this long post and I'm trying to dance a fine line without tipping too much of my hand while still giving out a few more details. We can go talk to any LE agency and I can be investigated to any standard deemed necessary. Hopefully this will inform better and stir up even more interests.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="copertop80, post: 1511881, member: 1538"] First and foremost the target market for this weapon is L.E. agencies, such as the state dpt. The secret service, the CIA and the majority of the other alphabet agencies, so don’t get on here and tell me I can’t do X, Y, or Z because ATF regs. I’ll burn those bridges when I get to them, that being said, I do want to have a civilian version as well Description: My proposal is for a full length barrel rifle or shotgun that is completely concealable. The current NON-WORKING model is a rifle with an overall length of about 30” with a 20” barrel. The weapon can be concealed underneath a suit jacket (thus the targeted market base) this weapon will be chambered in a rifle caliber probably .556 ( God help us all, I’d really like something with a little more knock down but it needs to fit the NATO regs as to grab the widest market base. So what are you gonna do). Magazine fed and mounted optics/aiming assistances accessible this design (L.E. version) would be select fire; safe, 1, 3, and F.A. This rifle design is one in which SUSTAINED, ACCURATE fire can be delivered one handed, while the other hand guides a VIP, weather push or pull, and precision fire can be delivered two handed. The firing mechanism is unlike anything on the mkt. (along the same line of thinking as the KRISS but not a copy of the KRISS either) Concealed underneath a suit jacket, while not being visible, this weapon is slightly quicker to deploy than a holstered handgun, delivering more accurate fire than a handgun, with, I think, would deliver more velocity within each round due to the longer barrel, than current competitors on the mkt. to date, (mp5, sp89, ANY M4, mp7, p90, Uzi ect. ect. ect.) Completely mobile for getting in, out, and around vehicles without altering normal movements. Because of the configuration of this design this would be ideal for C.Q.B. encounters, room to room fighting, any and all urban encounters, or ambush busting. I know I have been extremely vague but to protect my intellectual properties I must. Toward the end of the month of May I hope to be able to sit down with any and all interested parties and disclose everything that everyone wants to know. Provided N.D.A. are signed and notarized (a business plan will be part of this presentation). To those who have already been in contact with me, your already on the list to be notified when the "meeting" is to take place, most likely on a Saturday afternoon. If you have not but want to be a part shoot me a pm with your contact info, phone # and or an email, and I'll get you on the list to be notified too. I dont have anything to hide, I don't have the heart to screw anyone over. That is not what this is about, the intrests of my previous post is what spawned this long post and I'm trying to dance a fine line without tipping too much of my hand while still giving out a few more details. We can go talk to any LE agency and I can be investigated to any standard deemed necessary. Hopefully this will inform better and stir up even more interests. [/QUOTE]
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