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Newest GOP Red Herring: Airports Can Opt-Out of TSA
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<blockquote data-quote="Dale00" data-source="post: 1368423" data-attributes="member: 688"><p>OK, I've waded through the two documents you recommended as best I could. Please tell me if I have missed anything important to the discussion or misunderstood anything. Here is what jumped out at me as being important:</p><p></p><p><strong>Aviation Security Act</strong> of Nov 19, 2001 (2 months, 7 days after World Trade Center attack)</p><p>TSA established under the Department of Transportation</p><p>Purpose includes gathering intelligence, assessing threats, developing policies, strategies and plans to deal with threats to transportation security.</p><p></p><p>Provisions for</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Federal Air Marshals</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Improved flight deck security</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Improved airport perimeter access security<br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Airports can opt out of TSA but private security must still be supervised by TSA</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Improved screening of passengers and cargo</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">When explosive detection sysatems are not yet available alternate means can be employed - all bags must be matched to a passenger on aircraft, manual search, explosive sniffing dogs, others means approved by the head of TSA</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">No fly lists</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Screener qualifications (rather low - HS diploma or GED or whatever seems enough)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Assaulting anyone at the airport charged with security - punishment fine and or prison up to 10 years. If dangerous weapon is used in the assault then up to life in prison.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Weapons for flight crew - less than lethal only</li> </ul><p></p><p>HR 2115, Vision 100 - <strong>Aviation Reauthorization Action, 2003 -2004 Congress</strong></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Secretary of Transportation shall cooperate with Sec of Homeland Security to administer the Airport Security program.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Arming of flight crew with firearms or tazers</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Removal of cap on TSA staffing</li> </ul><p></p><p>I do not think I ever said or meant to imply that that TSA was acting without the authorization of Congress. Congress acted in haste to strengthen air travel security immediately after the World Trade Center. Just as after Pearl Harbor, little or no thought was given to the rights of citizens. We are now at the point where we must insist on our rights to be secure in our persons etc or we will lose them. </p><p></p><p>GTG I believe I agree with you that Congress may be about to make a whipping boy out of TSA. I'll go further to say that the fault for screening excesses should be laid at the foot of Congress which gave TSA too much discretionary power resulting in the current outrages.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dale00, post: 1368423, member: 688"] OK, I've waded through the two documents you recommended as best I could. Please tell me if I have missed anything important to the discussion or misunderstood anything. Here is what jumped out at me as being important: [B]Aviation Security Act[/B] of Nov 19, 2001 (2 months, 7 days after World Trade Center attack) TSA established under the Department of Transportation Purpose includes gathering intelligence, assessing threats, developing policies, strategies and plans to deal with threats to transportation security. Provisions for [LIST] [*]Federal Air Marshals [*]Improved flight deck security [*]Improved airport perimeter access security [*]Airports can opt out of TSA but private security must still be supervised by TSA [*]Improved screening of passengers and cargo [*]When explosive detection sysatems are not yet available alternate means can be employed - all bags must be matched to a passenger on aircraft, manual search, explosive sniffing dogs, others means approved by the head of TSA [*]No fly lists [*]Screener qualifications (rather low - HS diploma or GED or whatever seems enough) [*]Assaulting anyone at the airport charged with security - punishment fine and or prison up to 10 years. If dangerous weapon is used in the assault then up to life in prison. [*]Weapons for flight crew - less than lethal only [/LIST] HR 2115, Vision 100 - [B]Aviation Reauthorization Action, 2003 -2004 Congress[/B] [LIST] [*]Secretary of Transportation shall cooperate with Sec of Homeland Security to administer the Airport Security program. [*]Arming of flight crew with firearms or tazers [*]Removal of cap on TSA staffing [/LIST] I do not think I ever said or meant to imply that that TSA was acting without the authorization of Congress. Congress acted in haste to strengthen air travel security immediately after the World Trade Center. Just as after Pearl Harbor, little or no thought was given to the rights of citizens. We are now at the point where we must insist on our rights to be secure in our persons etc or we will lose them. GTG I believe I agree with you that Congress may be about to make a whipping boy out of TSA. I'll go further to say that the fault for screening excesses should be laid at the foot of Congress which gave TSA too much discretionary power resulting in the current outrages. [/QUOTE]
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