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Message: <blockquote data-quote="mugsy" data-source="post: 2201949" data-attributes="member: 18914">I am completely serious and made a very clear statement - you, on the other hand, haven't even presented an argument just the equivalent of "duh".  Not considered a strong technique in debate circles.Most of the "controversy" I've seen or heard centers on slight differences between initial reports and follow-on reports, what weapon was where and so forth, frankly as a career military officer I can tell you with certainty that initial reports, even from trained military observers, are always inaccurate only the degree of inaccuracy differs, so I don't find that a very convincing line of argument.Maybe there's a better case to be made but I haven't seen or heard it.</blockquote>