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<blockquote data-quote="WessonOil" data-source="post: 2204491" data-attributes="member: 25792"><p>In a nutshell, offering up our Pacific Fleet and the possibility of losing our two carriers, as well as 6 months worth of fuel oil would have lost the war in the Pacific.</p><p>It was pure luck the Imperial fleet didn't spot our carriers, or go after the fuel dumps.</p><p>Actually, not luck so much, as other Japanese officers wanted to stick around and look for the carriers and go after the fuel dumps.</p><p>(Lexington and Enterprise were delivering aircraft to wake Island and Midway.)</p><p>If you follow the course of the war in the Pacific, losing the Pacific Fleet at Pearl Harbor quite simply would have left the West Coast open for full scale Japanese naval operations.</p><p>Not to mention the Battle of Coal Sea, Midway, etc.</p><p>All that aside, FDR was asst. Sec of the Navy for a number of years, and had a special fondness of the Navy.</p><p></p><p>We could have intercepted the Japanese fleet far from Pearl Harbor and still have a viable reason to go to war.</p><p>Fact is, our military intel was so inept in those days, people want to believe we knew about it.</p><p>We were aware of increased radio communications and correspondence among the Japanese, but didn't know exactly what was going on.</p><p>Seeing as to how there were 18 other countries with an army larger than ours, military intelligence wasn't exactly well funded.</p><p></p><p>It's never been a secret that the Lucy was carrying war munitions, most passenger ships were.</p><p>It was such an open secret that the German government ran in ad in American newspapers stating that they'd start torpedoing passenger ships due to this fact, and that passengers were risking their lives by traveling the Atlantic.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Once again, there are enough real dirty secrets that I don't have to swallow every urban myth hook, line, and sinker.</p><p></p><p>If you'll notice, I have posted topics in regards to what Hussein Obama has done as far as the IRS targeting people, confiscating the records of reporters, Fast and Furious, etc., so I'm well aware of what Presidents will do.</p><p></p><p>I just don't subscribe to being called naive because I don't believe every tinfoil hat theory that comes down the road.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WessonOil, post: 2204491, member: 25792"] In a nutshell, offering up our Pacific Fleet and the possibility of losing our two carriers, as well as 6 months worth of fuel oil would have lost the war in the Pacific. It was pure luck the Imperial fleet didn't spot our carriers, or go after the fuel dumps. Actually, not luck so much, as other Japanese officers wanted to stick around and look for the carriers and go after the fuel dumps. (Lexington and Enterprise were delivering aircraft to wake Island and Midway.) If you follow the course of the war in the Pacific, losing the Pacific Fleet at Pearl Harbor quite simply would have left the West Coast open for full scale Japanese naval operations. Not to mention the Battle of Coal Sea, Midway, etc. All that aside, FDR was asst. Sec of the Navy for a number of years, and had a special fondness of the Navy. We could have intercepted the Japanese fleet far from Pearl Harbor and still have a viable reason to go to war. Fact is, our military intel was so inept in those days, people want to believe we knew about it. We were aware of increased radio communications and correspondence among the Japanese, but didn't know exactly what was going on. Seeing as to how there were 18 other countries with an army larger than ours, military intelligence wasn't exactly well funded. It's never been a secret that the Lucy was carrying war munitions, most passenger ships were. It was such an open secret that the German government ran in ad in American newspapers stating that they'd start torpedoing passenger ships due to this fact, and that passengers were risking their lives by traveling the Atlantic. Once again, there are enough real dirty secrets that I don't have to swallow every urban myth hook, line, and sinker. If you'll notice, I have posted topics in regards to what Hussein Obama has done as far as the IRS targeting people, confiscating the records of reporters, Fast and Furious, etc., so I'm well aware of what Presidents will do. I just don't subscribe to being called naive because I don't believe every tinfoil hat theory that comes down the road. [/QUOTE]
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