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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BillM" data-source="post: 4263241" data-attributes="member: 45785">Back in the day, and particularly in the West, they took your gun(s) away when you got jailed or imprisoned. And gave them back when you got out. They hoped you learned your lesson, and knew that you needed your gun(s) to survive. I really cannot see how things got to the point that it became "reasonable" to deprive people of their absolute right to defend themselves. If they reoffend, back to the slammer. And if they cannot learn from that, maybe we need to kill them so it cannot happen again.</blockquote>